That's their way of saying if your dumb enough to jump through hoops for them then they will eventually get you one.
yeap... I was told this and I never even contacted them or showed them any interest in getting 488 light weight edition. They reached out to me and told me that this was the criteria mandated by ferrari. Ordering one was guaranteed to get the 488 light weight allocation. Many pages back, a few other people reported that they had bought lusso for this specific reason (many months ago but were told that this would get them the 488 light weight.
I agree 100%. My brother and I have a little race team with two Stohr F1000 open wheel formula cars (wings, 845 lb wet, 185 hp @ 13,000 RPM, 900 lb downforce, 3.0 lateral G's) that we race in SCCA......my kids cannot understand why I am not going to take my new 2013 458 coupe to the track. Firstly it is a street car on street tires, and secondly it is pretty expensive! It is just unnecessary to thrash that fine machine on the track when I have a purpose-built racecar that will run circles around it. (I am overlooking the overhead of a tow rig and trailer and dedicated tools and scales and new slicks every weekend and all the maintenance......) Sorry for the thread drift...
The criteria questions about allocations from different parts of the world (France, UK, Canada, US) - is pointless. Every country is different. Every dealer is different. FNA is different than Ferrari Asia or Australia. List prices will be different too. Continuing to wonder what's going to get you an allocation at this point in the game is likely a waste of time since you should know (a) what you need or needed to do, and (b) if you're actually getting one by now. And yes, it's 100% true here in the US - you will need both a relationship with Ferrari and a dealer to get one - that relationship will either have involved or involve buying an FF, a Lusso, a 488, a California T, whatever the dealer and/or FNA wants you to buy. But don't complain - it's been like this for years, now every other manufacturer is jumping on the Ferrari bandwagon to do the same (think Ford GT, McLaren, and Porsche) - those of us who are loyal to the brand are afforded opportunities for the special ones. And if you think this is bad - imagine how impossible it is to get a LaF, or the next Ferrari Hypercar. For now, bite the bullet if you want the car that bad - and then likely wait for the second or third round of allocations to get one - or if that's not acceptable to you, simply get in line behind the many others who want one but will have to pay way over MSRP to get one on the second market a year after the car is released. Feb 20th we will have most of the answers! Till then let the speculation continue on what's sure to be an amazing machine!
Image Unavailable, Please Login And don’t forget this criteria. It is my understanding this is is legitimate for consideration.
I totally agree . Most of us lucky enough to have been allocated a car or those that wish they had don't give a monkeys about $$/ le - they love the emotion and desire it ..... saying 'over the top ' seems a bit disingenuous ....
I’d be curious to hear thoughts on this. First let me say, I don’t flip my cars. I buy them for my pleasure. Still, strictly from an investment standpoint, is the 488 VS a wise move? Do the previous VS cars prove this is the case, or is the depreciation just less severe?
Just the length of this forum confirms the passion - you agree in that case that you've also been over the top?? - as your previous posts suggest your extreme interest ( dare i say it - over the top )
I was told today that customers that participate in any racing program would be able to add additional racing inspired options to the car. Weird..... but source was very credible!
I think you are misunderstanding me and would ask you to reread my posts. I say over the top to describe the level of demand for a non LE car. If you compare the demand for this car versus the Speciale at the same time in the cycle, only a few years ago, a very fair comparison, I would describe it as being over the top. Maybe I should have said extraordinary or excessive, or abnormal, I didn’t appreciate over the top would prove such an affront. I also went out of my way to exclude everyone on this forum, who clearly are enthusiasts, I am just suggesting that there are others outside of this forum for whom Ferrari’s are a means to make money and that this goes some way to explain the extraordinary demand and I don’t see why this is such a terrible thing to suggest.
I purchased my UK delivered 599 GTO in January 2011. I am her first owner and she cost me 330K GBP. By the end of 2011 she had lost around 10% of her value. People forget it wasn't until later the market began moving up. By late 2013 her value had risen to around 750K. Today she's worth above 330K but comfortably below 750K. My point is from an investment standpoint, values on these go up and down like a roller-coaster in Orlando. And the post 2012 boom was c/o of QE, which is now history. Absolutely, the VS cars, including I'm sure the new 488 VS, are demonstrably more exciting and so have stronger residuals than their base models, but only relatively. Even the mighty tdf for example has softened considerably from its highs. To your point, you buy VS models (if you've made the cut) because of the love of driving Ferrari. If you manage to wipe your face over time, it's a nice dividend.
I think this version will do similar to the speciale or worse given the larger production run. Sent from my BBB100-3 using Tapatalk
I don’t necessarily think any car is a wise investment. You should buy what you love, what makes your heart beat a little bit faster every time you open the garage and enjoy the dividend it pays on every drive. If it happens you don’t lose money, that would make it a great investment, and as Camlet says, it’s like a roller coaster so just enjoy the ride.
The majority of the small group I hang with either declined or didnt care about an allocation. One guy is excited and hoping to get a slot. The speciale was more enticing to this group of 5ish serious Collectors fwiw. Sent from my BBB100-3 using Tapatalk
I think €325,000 is very optimistic. Base will be around €300,000 Ex VAT etc. Throw in the "must have CF wheels" (who doesnt buy the Weisach package on their 2RS) and a bit of CF in general and I could easily see it at €400,000 on the road. Ferrari will have learnt from Porsche's 991.1GT3RS mistake of making such a good car too cheap and letting flippers/dealers profit.