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  1. paulchua

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    Does anybody know who owns or where the PPG Mondial pacecar ended up?
     
  2. Surge74

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    What do you guys think of this peeling paint sticker? '93 Mondial coupe with reportedly only 12,000 km / 8500 miles on the clock.
    Looks strange to me - why would it be missing the corners; unless the hatch was repainted, and someone peeled it off and reapplied it?
    Car also has bolster scuffing on the drivers seat...
    Asking $60,000 USD, but it needs a major service - no service history since 2012, when the belts were done. 3 owners.
    Offered $50K and the selling shop does the major. A very fair price!
    Selling shop (selling on consignment) told me it's not even worth counter-offering, we are too far apart; basically told me to eat crow. WTF??!
    We'll talk in a year when the car is still for sale!

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  3. Cadillacbart

    Cadillacbart Formula Junior

    Nov 26, 2013
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    Sticker doesn’t bother me - assuming it’s the right color and you do not see other evidence of paintwork.
    Selling dealer story bothers me. Maybe the owner is here and will see your post.
     
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  4. Russ Gould

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    Talk to them again in the middle of winter.
     
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  5. paulchua

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    did the seller respond to your 50K offer? thanks for sharing.
     
  6. Russ Gould

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    Seller responded "we are too far apart to counter" if I read it right Paul. If seller is capable of doing the major, which appears to be the case, he should have taken the $50K, spent $1K on parts, and banked the rest.

    Does the carfax support the miles?

    And do you have a paint gauge?
     
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  7. Russ Gould

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    https://www.ebay.com/itm/1982-Ferrari-Mondial/391914852256?hash=item5b3ff20fa0:g:jhQAAOSwehZZ9KrO&vxp=mtr

    Dr Fink's green car. Although it looks like he sold it to the guy who is now selling it. It looks like a lot of work has been done. Seller does not specifically list receipts but major service, new brake hydraulics, new stainless exhaust, new alternator, fuel injection overhaul, new wheels, looks like interior has been releathered. Now yours for $26,500 obo needing rust abatement and paint.
     
  8. Surge74

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    I do have a paint gauge, but have not seen it yet. I won't, since the seller has said it's not worth even replying to my offer with a counter-offer. I have to say that for a discretionary purchase such as this one, the right buying experience is very important. Why would I want to spend my money on another car for my collection if the seller is borderline rude? And definitely out to lunch?!

    There is no Carfax. It's a European car. I don't think Carfax is in Europe? But the miles seem to be real, as there is a local government report from the license renewal office which shows the mileage consistently increasing over 3 owners to today's 12,000 km. But if it's anything like the Ontario government version in Canada, it's self-reported, so you can easily lie and make up your own mileage.

    I agree - $50k is on the high end of the Hagerty's range. I failed to mention that both front and rear glass is delaminating and will need replacement. Hagerty's "Concours" is $53K. So this car is not concours level.
    $50K and doing the major, the selling dealer seems more than capable, is a great offer.

    Perhaps it's the owner who is nuts and thinks it's worth $60K plus a $15K major...
     
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  9. paulchua

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    ah thank you, missed it!
     
  10. paulchua

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    Hi Surge74, I would feel the same way if I were in your shoes. Stay patient, the right one will come along. Best wishes.
     
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  11. godabitibi

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    Look like here in Canada the older cars are getting rare. Almost no Mondials or 355 for sale right now.
     
  12. davem

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    Sergio,
    Sent you a PM in "conversations" few days back. Not as easy to find here on new site im thinking?
     
  13. 2cam

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    It looks like 1984 Mondial (zfflc15b000051679) is for sale in a small town South of Ft. Worth - https://dallas.craigslist.org/dal/cto/d/ferrari-mondial-1984/6377604910.html . It appears that it was involved in an accident in the past and rebuilt with 3.2 bumpers - http://www.2040-cars.com/Ferrari/Mondial/ferrari-mondial-cabriolet-yellow-clean-700507 . Probably a bit of a money pit given that it has a salvage title and if the issues mentioned in the older ad haven't been addressed. Never-the-less, good to keep track of these things...

    2cam
     
  14. bencollins

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  15. Russ Gould

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    This car was listed on ft worth cl about 2 years ago. It was front ended quite badly and repaired by a guy in the Midwest someplacewho also painted it yellow. Seller seemed squirelly. There was some dubious story about the title, an uncle of the seller supposedly owned it, don't quite recall the details. But
     
  16. AAmsden

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    Does this guy have anything better to do then make this section a wine and ***** arena? How do I block his comments? At this point I'm happy he had issues... hahaha!

    My contribution to this section is that Mondial's are great cars. and obviously smart enthusiasts buy cars that have been taken care of.

    I had a 86 Mondial Coupe (Metallic Blue and Red interior), drove it four years, put on 40,000 miles and dumped less than $1200 into the car. Did the belt change with a friend and it was cake... and after that just oil changes. Best car I've ever owned. If you watch the Indie Sci-Fi feature film "Alien Encounter" it's in that movie - my 77 308GTB (White) is as well.

    Now I have a 89 Mondial T Cabriolet with 20,000 miles and it's perfect and I plan to drive it and drive it. Image Unavailable, Please Login
     
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  17. Meister

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    Left click on his username, little black box pops up. Upper right of that black box has an "ignore" option... done
     
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  18. paulchua

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    #1118 paulchua, Nov 9, 2017
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    What a beauty. Congrats! Russ has some useful information at times. He makes no allusions to his disdain for the model though. It makes for fun banter, having an opposing fan at your favorite home team sporting event happens, although they do usually try to go the visitor's section. I have also never seen an opposing fan wonder why they would receive negative reactions (with no violence of course) when bashing the home team.
     
  19. MaseratiMike

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    I was also at the auction at Kings Lynn, surprised how much it went for. The car was heavily rusted on the arches, chassis and floor pan. Plus the interior was grubby, paintwork tlc required and full major service....
     
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  20. alexion

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    Wow...this gives me confidence to hold steady on my price.
     
  21. donkost

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    So approximately $42K USD for a example with heavily rusted arches, chassis, and floor pan? That would buy a beautiful example here in the states. Seems like a few people were really after it and got into a little bidding war. Were they able to properly examine the condition of the car beforehand? That is even well over the auction estimate range.
     
  22. ssrealty

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    I am thinking of selling my 1985 Ferrari Mondial QV. Have done extensive work on car. Drove to Mondialpaloozo in PA in 2013. Mechanically sound. It is a driver- interior is worn, and there is a rip in top when I purchased car years ago. I am third owner. Car has new pillars, Dave Helms fuse box, updated cooling system, and 348 wheels. Have extensive service records. Serviced my Moorespeed and Brian Crall in Austin. Below is a video link:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iEzuYf650Y4

    Did not realize I had key in ignition the whole time with background buzzer noise. Have driven a few hundred miles since video. PM me if interested.
     
  23. MaseratiMike

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    I agree I think there must have been a bit of bidding fever going on! The day before the auction people get the opportunity to look at the cars up close and the day of the auction in the morning (which I did too). Also googling the number plate reveals some of the MOST History (for quite a few years there have been advisories for the rusted floor/chassis). The car was in rough condition.

    I was bidding on a Ferrari 308GT4 Dino which was there, but needed Bodywork on visual inspection and went for £39500+ 5% commission....

    The problem with auctions there is a risk and a reason why they are in there, these cars haven't shown up in the normal sites like autotrader/piston heads/ebay etc.
     
  24. kevinkw

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    Will be interesting to see where this 1984 QV Cabriolet ends up on Bring a Trailer, at $24,050 with 4 hours to go. That's 3 QVs in quick succession on BaT. The silver and black Raiders QV coupe owned by @RicSinger, my red one. We'll see who's next!
     
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  25. paulchua

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    Interesting to see unanimous positive comments, have not seen that before on BAT. I was waiting for that one 'guy' from the fast and furious crowd to say it's bad handling, fake Ferrari.

    Times a changing..
     

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