FORMULA 1 GROSSER PREIS VON ÖSTERREICH 2017: RACE DAY *** SPOILERS ***

You do realise that all the drivers are on the radio constantly throughout the race? They are always going on about other drivers. The FIA media centre gets all the radio traffic and selects what it puts out to air.

Vettel is obviously concentrating on victory. I think it's good that he isn't maxed out just trying to drive the car, but has spare capacity to look for other ways to boost his race tactical awareness or find an edge vs his opponents. That's good race craft.

 

I'have heard that Haas used the new Ferrari engine, this would explain why they were so fast, can anyone confirm this? It would make sense to me, to test it in race in the "b" team before using it in the scuderia

 

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Vettel learned from Schumacher. To have that spare capacity while driving at vmax is rare though.

 

Finding the sweet spot

Grosjean says the upturn in Haas’s fortunes this weekend was due to getting the car into the correct performance windows, it terms of tyres and downforce.

“There are a few things we need to improve but when we get the tyres to work and the right downforce level and the right drag level we are very competitive,” he said.

https://www.motorsport.com/f1/news/grosjean-haas-won-formula-1-grand-prix-2-in-austria-928697/



however...one is on the way for Silverstone


Ferrari and Mercedes set up

New engines in Silverstone

Renault has already done so. All teams with Renault engines got their third drive unit in Spielberg. Ferrari customer HaasF1. The two World Cup opponents will be upgraded to Silverstone.

The engine report by FIA technical commissioner Jo Bauer included several pages. In the ninth of 21 races, the quota of engine components is already reaching the critical limit in many places. The McLaren Honda pilots have already collected the first pit stops. In the Renault camp, there will be penalties in the second season. At Ferrari one is at the limit with the turbochargers. In the plan are only Mercedes and his two customer teams Force India and Williams.

At GP Austria, Renault launched its third combustion engine. It is not an upgrade for more power, but to ensure reliability. Renault hopes to solve his problems with the engine blocks, the cylinder liners and the MGU-H. "And that can be the basis for the fact that we are able to exploit the potential of the engine better and get more performance with optimized engine performance," hopes Sportchef Cyril Abiteboul. The fourth engine, which is ignited in the last season of the Saisond, will be a real power upgrade.

Ferrari's new engine has more quali-power

Ferrari has first tried his Spec2 engine in the HaasF1 chassis. Thus, Maranello can test the removal stage without risk. In the qualification mode, it should bring more performance in a two-digit range. GPS measurements suggest 10 to 15 hp. The workforce is looking after the use of the new engine in Silverstone. Just in time for the half season. This makes Ferrari at least safe with the combustion engine.

Mercedes will also be upgraded to Silverstone. In camp the world champions are covered, which is to be expected from the third propulsion unit. After engine number 2 was brought to the pool mainly for clearing out weak points and improving the reliability, now more power would be needed. In response to Ferrari's power spray.

Honda will again have two Spec3 engines in Silverstone with a modified MGU-H. Whether Fernando Alonso is actually using the expansion stage is decided on the spot. "It could be a punishment. We have to discuss this in Silverstone, "says Motorschef Yusuke Hasegawa.

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Awe poor baby.

20 pts is nothing

 

It's always the same... if you like Hamilton... you see everything he does in a positive way... hate him? Everything he does/says makes him a d*ck. Same is true for Vettel and Alonso. Great drivers should polarize the fans... that's the nature of competition.

I keep reading about how Seb "didn't admit to dangerous driving" last GP. Maybe he didn't think bumping the wheel at 20mph was very dangerous. To be honest it wasn't. Stupid maybe, but not dangerous.

I thought Bottas jumped too. It looked plainly obvious to me, but if they say it was within the rules, then so be it. I think it's natural for Seb to wonder. For those who say he just needs to ignore all that is kinda silly considering the strategy that's involved in every single race. I also don't get why everyone rides these guys for being down or pissed when they don't win. Do you not understand how competitive these guys are? They should be pissed. it's the exact reason Seb acted the way he did last race. I'm okay with Seb or Lewis or anyone getting pissed about losing or reacting to things they perceive. Lewis, actually commented on this very thing. I"m sure the people who hate him will say he's a baby and all that, but I get where he's coming from.

Hamilton explains post-race 'unhappiness' | PlanetF1 : PlanetF1

 

LH starts in with the woe is me crap the second something doesnt go his way

 

Goodbye ladies, until next year..........sigh
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Have a go at testing your start reflex guys..

 

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+1 always.

He is by far the sorriest excuse for a man when **** doesn't go his way. Almost all others take it on the chin.

 

As usual, a plus one for you

 

I have a .246. LOL I'm not going to get anything done the rest of the day!

EDIT: Just got a .034! I should be a F1 driver, may better than Kvyatt.

 

I got a .30 anticipating it. Took my 10 jump starts to do it lol

Best when actually reacting was .202

 

Thanks brother! Learned from the master!

 

My very best was a .012, but that was ''cheating''.

When actually reacting had a .166 and a few .18X

 

I would venture to say that having a weekend without skidding into the gravel with the rear tires locked (or unlocked) would inspire the confidence.

Congratulations to Haas for having brakes.

 

Lewis is cracking. The guy has "issues". I think he's more upset that Bottas took the pole and won the race than the 20 points he's behind.


“I think it’s important for people who are watching, and also people who are reporting, to have patience with us drivers,” Hamilton later explained.

“You can’t be happy when you don’t have a result. You sacrifice everything to get the best result possible.

“When you personally don’t deliver and when things stack up against you, it’s hard to come out smiling.

“That would mean you don’t care enough. The fact is, I care.”

He added: “There are some days that are more painful than others, and there are some days that are easier.

“When you write stories or people comment, please just bear that in mind. It’s not a sign I am ungrateful or anything like that.

“It’s just the intensity of the battle, which I am loving, and the team are loving. But I want to win this championship.

 

As usual, after the incidents and "FIA regulations" receive full treatment by the Public, more facts become clear. If anyone else cares, I think these two YouTube videos bring out the relevant points.

In the first video Bottas admits he successfully anticipated the start. His statement "...you know more or less the zone when it is going to be off and you are so alert at that point and you are gambling between your reaction and guessing..." is clear admission that he anticipated.

However, FIA does not address Bottas's race start anticipation and just said clutch adjustment movement is OK... ostensibly to sidetrack the discussion.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T_oU7xhZnU8]Formula World video[/ame]

The next video shows Bottas moving as the lights dimmed, confirming Bottas's admission that he anticipated and the video's author Chazzahd points out the FIA rules do not allow drivers to anticipate the start.

[ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zZDpfBhA2lc]Chazzahd video[/ame]

So why didn't the FIA enforce its rule against drivers anticipating the race start?

The FIA either lied or is totally incompetent - you take you pick. It ignored its own rule against drivers anticipating the start. This is the kind of nonsense that will not only aggravate drivers and race teams but also put the fans and audiences off. Nobody likes to watch "fixed" sports events or a chaotic circus run by incompetent organizers.

...and BTW, I believe the 0.201 sec reaction time was the sensor reading off the car, not off Bottas's brain reaction to seeing the red lights go out. How much time does it take for Bottas to move his fingers to respond to his brain and for the car to register the clutch release? Bottas's brain essentially decided to release the clutch before the lights went out.

 

The FIA needs to go to LED lights for the start. LED's go immediately out instead of fading off like incandescents.

Asking a guy to wait until they "fade off completely" is ridiculous.

 

He had a perfect start for the 'system'. In reality he lucked out big time. Had the lights switched over .5 of a second later he would have had some explaining to do why he is already half way down the straight.
A non-story, yes. Vettel had no immense start anyways, yes. But to me Bottas' start was the moment of luck of the season.