Seatbelt mouse stopped working

Have you had your recall done? If not, ask for the fix on Ferraris dime. If you have, ask them to do it again, on thier dime.

 

About all you can try is disconnecting the battery, waiting a bit, and reconnecting (although that will give you some re-initialization work). If no joy after it wakes up again, you could try swapping the two ECUs behind the passenger footrest plate (but that would just help you deduce whether it was/is an ECU problem or not). Otherwise, the electrical portion of these passive systems isn't deeply intertwined into the main fuse-relay panel.

 

+1 on the recall

 

Yes, fine to use the battery disconnect switch (but you will have to do the engine recal procedure). You should probably also disconnect the shoulder strap from the mouse just to give the mouse the least load if it does need to "free" itself.

 

See pages C25-C26 in the 512TR WSM -- it describes the recommended procedure for letting the Motronic system "relearn" some values that are lost after the battery has been disconnected/reconnected. Not sure if it's absolutely a must do before reuse or if the system would eventually relearn all the necessary values anyway. It's not complicated -- it's just letting it warm idle for 10 minutes with nothing else "on".

 

Do mouse seat belts have a lifetime warranty?

 

Nope

 

Tim's right but because they are a safety item AND involved in a prior recall, Ferrari may feel compelled to make good, especially if the failure mode is the same as the original.

1987 Ferrari Testarossa Recall for Seat Belts Problem #88V186000

In my case, the original fault occurred again so Ferrari footed the bill on parts. I paid for the labour saving me >$1,200 from memory. I believe another member here was able to convince their local F shop to do the same. Worth a shot IMO

EDIT:

So when you click on the link next to the "see also", it takes you to this
1987 Ferrari Testarossa Recall for Seat Belts Problem #03V142000

Similar issue but with a recall notification date of 4/24/2003. Note that the original recall notification on the '87 was 3/10/89. Does this mean there were two recalls?

EDIT 2.0

So i dug a little deeper. Looks like the later recall had more to do with an individual complaint regarding charge back.
FERRARI Problems - 1987 FERRARI TESTAROSSA Problems & Complaints - ODI #8011967

Maybe Ferrari weren't doing me any favors after all

 

To hear the older V-10 and V-12 F1 cars are something. I still remember 2001 Indy F1 cars screaming down the long straight into turn one. I was at the F1 race at Monza in September.
The cars sounded terrible, was like a parade of nothing. The last F1 race I will attend till something changes.

 

Wow....never been here before. Makes me just want to convert to the euro belts!

Looking at the parts, the belts don't seem all that expensive. It would be the euro upper door covers that would be hard to get.

It seems like if we could just get a salvage pair, then someone could reproduce them cheaply.

 

In for this info as well. I have a TR that has improperly functioning limit switches. I need to remove the A/B pillar covers to see what can be done to adjust the switches.

 

According to the Ferrari Data Base, mine was recalled/repaired about six or seven years ago. In the past year, both motors stopped working. So, when I took my car in for the "Major" service, Ferrari approved the repair and replacement of my seatbeat motors, on their dime! Mine was repaired through Towbin Ferrari of Las Vegas a couple months ago.

 

Sounds like Ferrari have a responsibility/obligation to ensure the belts are always working. Nothing they are advertising of course

 

Attached are instructions on how to access the mouse belt motors on a Testarossa--I have no idea if they are the same for a 512TR or F512M (would like to know, hint, hint....). Use care when removing the panels, most are aluminum and bend quite easily. Never tried but I have read that the microswitch "arms" at each station (position) can be bent or adjusted (carefully) without removing anything (they are in the center of the tracks)--that may solve some problems easily (arms get bent and don't make contact).

My belts act up quite often with several different symptoms (recall was done many years ago). When actuating the passenger side tensioner occasionally tensions mid-way and wont release the belt so about 1/2 way through travel it reaches full tension and halts the belt. I can work around this by pulling the belt out a few inches and holding manually before closing the door. If I forget and it does lock up I can manually pull the retract mechanism "in" with the belt (about 1/4") then it will release the belt.

The drivers side motor is weak so it behaves differently--often when opening the door it won't move the mouse fully to the open position and stalls--frustrating. It also sometimes wont retract when the door is closed (I think this is a switch issue).

Regardless, I can often resolve issues by switching off the ignition then on again to "reset" the cycle. I've learned to live with it's behavior; nearest dealer is 2 hrs. away and if they wouldn't replace for free I wouldn't want to pay the parts + labor bill. I can always get them to work so no safety concerns.

REMEMBER if yours get to the point where they won't work (retract/extend) you can release them from the automated track and move them to the lock/unlock position manually--this will mitigate all but a tensioner issue.
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