Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

from what i heard, the factory 'support' consisted of providing the car, and being 'available' for consult if 'needed'. Porsche was hands off...

it's late in the game now, so pretty much everyone knows what's up with what. Porsche are clearly confident and more than happy with the product they've put out.

 

It is free for some, but some of us pay voluntary monthly so that Chris Harris can make better videos.

 

Great video

 

Well it is a street car and not a race car.

 

It's a street car with a track mode that's illegal on the street.

 

I thought it was illegal everywhere, not just the UK. I figured they went all the way in track mode, not caring about regulations. (I always thought there were minimum bumper heights manufacturers had to meet. What we do after we buy them is still up to us.)

 

cant remember what the source was...think Mac post waaay back in the day...but it went something like this: in race mode the min bumper height does not meet DOT, per pedestrian and as per production car was crash tested and legalized at 'standard' ride height...

 

Actually it is the Race mode and not the Track mode that is illegal from the research I have done but I could be wrong.

McLaren P1 Reviews - McLaren P1 Price, Photos, and Specs - Car and Driver

 

HYPER 5 results:

918: 1:18.44 s
LaF: 1:18.46 s
P1: 1:18.822 s
Veyron: 1:23.006 s
Huayra: 1:23.76 s

Customer cars, right? But I don't remember if they stated tires used for each car.

 

stock tires, P1 on Trofeo Rs

 

What is really funny to see is that especially in Hyper 5 they just put the cars on a 1/4 mile against each other but from so many test that have done before like (Sportauto 0-300-0, Grip) you can see that the Porsche 918 went from 0-300 in around 20 seconds whereas Koenigsegg Agera R went in around 17-18 which is exactly the same that the Veyron SS does so the benchmark should be a race from 0-300 as the Veyron SS is still one of the fastest cars even today and i am sure it could easily win in a 0-300 test run against the LAF, P1 and 918

 

What a sentence...

 

So, following your logic, the P1 sucks because it lost in Salomondrin video using Trofeo tires right?

 

The LaFerrari lost fair and square in this one.
But this test proves something, how superior the Trofeo tires are.

In fact, it's the only loss LaF took so far, because the conditions were the same. Had the P1 used Trofeos on TheSUPERCARDRIVER test, it would have suffered an utter loss.

 

I would take any one of those cars, loser or winner, and be quite happy!

 

Must admit I think the LaF could do with a tad more downforce. Wonder if Ferrari would be willing to add a few little extra lips or one would have to do it himself.

 

Me too.

 

Just buy an FXX-K.

 

The 918 and LaF are so close that one lap could make a difference for either car. A fraction of a section quicker shift, later braking, better exit, etc. could have the LaF edging out the 918.

 

Absolutely. Bottom line after two serious timed tests in the same week is that all three are incredibly close. Sure nobody expected such tight results. They're so close that different tests give different results. Take all three to the Nürburgring you'll get yet another different result.

 

so now all these tests have confirmed to me what my initial opinions were when these cars first came out. porsche would be fastest, best engineered, most practical, best value, and have open top. despite that, laf would be my pick due to looks, sound, sense occasion, and best investment. mcca would be last due to looks, turbo motor, step down from last macca supercar f1.

all of this is repeat of last decade enzo, cgt, sls. enzo for looks, sound, occasion. porsche second for engineering, open top, stick shift. sls distant third. so at least macca is making up ground and getting closer. next decade will be interesting for them to beat the established ones esp if they go back to central seating. really missed out on that with p1, imo

 

Which is exactly what Harris said of all the cars.

It sure seems like the LaF is a handful to drive compared to the other 2.

 

Summary of recent head to head comparisons:
918 - quickest accelerating in low speed situations, wins on slower technical tracks
P1 - quickest accelerating in high speed situations, wins on longer, straighter tracks
LaFerrari - stuck in between the two, so doesn't win on any track, but most desirable of all three.

 

What is interesting is that the Hyper 5 test and the Motorend (P1 VS 918) both conclusively show that the 918 is quicker than the P1.

On the tests of Bailey and Chris Harris the P1 wins. This reminds me of an old joke:

What is fair play? Answer: the English make the rules.

Bailey with his Mcl jockey and Chris Harris has on numerous occasions let through his favouring of the P1 (see interview on Goodwood TV)

And the comment that driving the P1 felt most normal and not like being in a "deathwatch" is not befitting of a professional journalist. I have never felt like being in a death trap in my 918 or in the LF.. What a stupid comment. Too be honest the reason why the P1 feels "normal" is unfortunately because is has the same tub and suspension and engine of the MC12 and 650 and 675 and 570 and 540! Add a trick suspension,a massive hydraulicly operated rear wing, turbo boost and engine mods and a formula e motor and you get a P1.
That is fact. And it still is a fantastic car despite the standard components. Why does he not mention that if the others are supposed to feel like death traps. It's disappointing. I expected much more from his test. The best of the test was Franchitti who summed it up! You need all three.

For me after 8000kms with all three, if it's just speed that matters the Porsche is the quickest car.

 

Sorry not deathwatch but deathtrap