This won't be the last one, I like the way that you can even do it at home ! Ferrari 488 GTB boosted to 779bhp by Alpha-N Performance | Evo
I've spoken with some people that feel this is still a conservative and very safe number. The issue is not the motor and turbo capability rather the transmission above this output.
I've heard from reliable people that there were some problems Turbos failing during the 488 development. So I think it's a big mistake to believe that such a modification is safe and conservative. I'm almost sure that cars with such software upgrades only, will be very short lived
No disrespect but a 118 hp boost is just the start. The 488 guys haven't seen anything yet. Being a 911TT guy for the better part of the last 15 years I can tell you that when the after market tuners get a hold of a 488 they will start at the 800+ hp mark and go from there. Tuners like AMS, Switzer, EVOMS, UGR, etc. (the list goes on and on) will be salivating and chomping at the bit to tune any new TT model. First they will start with leaving the turbos stock and then go to aftermarket custom bigger turbos, rebuilding the top end internals, beefing up the tranny, etc. Just go to any 911TT or GTR forum and you will see what can be done with a common everyday run of the mill TT setup. The 997TT and GTR tuners regularly put out 1500+ hp street legal beasts. I believe UGR did a 2000+ hp job to the Gallardo by adding a TT system. The 488 with a TT setup is tailor made for after market tuners. Same with the Cali. Bottom line is that by the end of 2016 you will probably see a modded 488 with 1000+ hp. By the end of 2017 don't be shocked to see a 1500 hp car from an UGR type tuner. Its the future. For everybody that says it voids that warranty, destroys the 488's integrity, etc. I get it and am not opining to same. Just saying that ANY TT setup lends itself to the high tech after market tuners going ballistic on it. 488 is already a rocketship but just imagine a street legal 1000 hp car where the mods are probably well under $100K with labor. Your talking LaF power for a fraction of the cost. To some this is blasphemy and to others nirvana.
Last time it took less than $100K to make it sounded like F1 car, but impossible as powerful. Now it takes less than $100K to make it as powerful as F1 car, but impossible to sound like. Now Ferrari can put all attention on light weight, aerodynamic, suspension, brakes, and transmission. They don't need to invest anymore on engine development.
Ultra high HP 911TTs also can go kaboom. I agree that tuners will do this, though. But I have to wonder how you put 800-1000bhp to the ground with only 2 driven wheels.
I am sure that's true, that's why it's called development and the primary reason those side vents are so aggressive. I've seen the math (can't recall exactly) but the NA 4.5 V8 sucks more air at peak than the turbo....but the latter requires more cooling air and intercooler flow. When you see the inside of the 488GT3/GT you will see some very carefully designed air handling to keep temps under control. Ferrari is also using a unique self tolerancing bearing system (or, so they say), so I'd imagine some were sacrificed in testing. All true. UGR seems to have done some very interesting things. Of course, this is not "easy" power, the tradeoffs are always in reliability, drivability and maintenance. I've done a few tuned engines (street and track), while the modern engines are way stronger than even 10 years ago, they can and do get stressed beyond design limits (i.e. go bang) or accelerate wear and failure rates - so typically more complex and frequent maintenance intervals. Perhaps an unfair benchmark, Porsche race engines (which are lightened, tweaked and tuned by definition, and pushed to within an inch of their lives) require rebuilds at 25-50 hours. Unsure about the current 991 Cup gearbox, but the old sequential box had rebuild cycles measured in hours...and I'd agree, not sure what the DCT is rated to handle. Regardless, I'm looking forward to seeing what these engines can be developed into Most of the time you do it at night, with a few friends filming your burnouts to post on YouTube. Or, they catch the engine blowing, or you crashing into a building, in which case their video goes on Jalopnik.
We all know that when the stock 488 pushes 661 hp at the crank its designed to be a reliable DD thus enabling/permitting the 3 yr. OEM warranty and 7 yr. maint. program to be reasonable/viable. Agree with ALL that modding the 488 will void warranty and adversely affect its reliability. That being said, there are many out there that just don't care and want to push the envelope. In addition, not all of the 488 modders will be youthful immature and irresponsible. There will be plenty of 488 owners that want a reliable "modestly" modded car in that 800-1000 hp range that will use their steeds as DD's. In fact once the factory warranty is terminated (ie. post 3 yr. period) I think you will see many more 488's (and Calis for that matter) modded. My DD is a bone stock 13 997TTS Cab. with 530 hp yet I can boost it to 700 (at the crank) for no more than $25K (with labor). I'm not doing the 700 hp power upgrade as my TTS is still under warranty and candidly I don't need more power for a DD that has been bulletproof reliable (plus I have my GTO if I really want to let loose). BTW if you want to know what a 2WD setup can do (e.g. not a 911TT, GTR or Gallardo) just look at modded Mac 12C or 650S. These modded cars are just simply stupid fast.
My friend has a modded 12c pushing out 800+ hp and that thing is an animal, I know the 488 will push out some of the same crazy numbers, still I would have taken a N/A v8 with that sound but the 488 is still a masterpiece.
Yep. Drag racing mentality as lap times come from cornering speed. Would be a lot cheaper to just pull their pants down and answer once and for all who has the longest penis. Pete
LOL! I am interested to drive the Huracan Spyder though. Right now I'd settle for the exhaust to get on the Speciale!
So right now you have stock exhaust on your Speciale? Just asking because it sounded amazing pulling out of cars and coffee the other day.
Exhaust will take it to another level. Not sure about the huracan spider though. I prefer rear wheel drive with the interior of a Ferrari. I have just had an in depth view inside and out of the 488 including revving and i am pretty impressed so far. Haven't driven it yet but can't wait to do it!
I looked at the Huracan spyder. Wanted to love it. But don't love the canvas top. Why didn't they do a folding hard-top like Ferrari? The NA V-10 engine puts out about 600hp. (maybe the next L car will be twin turbo like everyone else.) 488 is a faster and more capable. Ferrari beats Lambo
Those Lambo V10 engines have been shown to be able to take one hell of a beating. But more and more seem to be getting into that horsepower realm, and the engines seem to live. Now the gearbox - that's a different story.
