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512M Ferrari of San Antonio GONE $549k

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by Themaven, May 5, 2015.

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  1. boxerman

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    #76 boxerman, May 20, 2015
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    The tailights slapped into a panel which fills the gap vacated by the prior tailight strakes and tailights which were a coherant key part of the design. Almost somehting lotus or Gm would do.. Round tailights are a clash with the basic Tr look, its a historic add on, almost like a parts bin special. The face, fake rad grill, although to be fair the Tr and 355 had that too.. Those tailights, its like tudor facing on Frank Loyd Wright house.

    The front headlights, well koening already did that on a Tr so its hardley creative, its neither here nor there stylisticaly, but if you are calling any change unoffensive its the headlights..

    As to kids snapping photos. Yes a M is dramatic. Its alo undoubtably one of the greats to drive, up there with things like the F40 288, sadly we got GT cars after that..

    IMO it took Pinin and ferrari from the 308 all the way to the 458 till they made a truly beautiful and coherant design again. In between, yes the Tr series had a certain drama and 80s look, its origional too, but not exactly fully coherant.

    But then for the Tr they worked with a stretched boxer platform, put the rads on the side for cooling and AC, and had lots of legislation to deal with, so made do. It certainly had a lot of thought in the details, and was a clever origional solution to the tools they had and the platform limitations.

    The M, its like a kit car company changed the design enough not to get sued by copyright holders, not hidieous then, just a travesty.


    Whereas most of the earlier stuff had a harmony of shape and coherance. Arguably the 456 was classicaly beautiful in the inbetween period, criticised for copying earlier styling, but these days that is an in concept.


    360 430 pretty meh. The F50 its like the M a miss, and one wonders what were they thinking. The Enzo is polarsing but its somewhat fresh even if a bit clunky.

    458 they hit their stride in way not seen since the dino/boxer/308, it all good, and if you see a F70 in the flesh its also pretty great design.

    F12 its dramatic, frankly the c7 vette uses similar language better, I mean the F12 design would make a great supra.
     
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    not to go completely ot, but i never understand how people can love one version of something and hate the other version. ie. love 360 and hate 430. love 512, hate m. etc. theyre 99% same with different bumpers just like american car co.s used to do in the 70's from 1 model year to another.

    personally, i dont like any of the tr versions. i think the boxer is better looking and the 550/575 more practical. would rather have a 355 or 360 if want a mid engine car.
     
  3. raysur

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    What you feel is a minor change is huge to someone else.

    Back to the topic...
     
  4. boxerman

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    Well look at a countach lp400 periscopo and then look at a 25 aniv countach. They are versions of the same car, the way a 70 yo dowager with 20 too many face lifts gone bad still wearing teenage cloths is the same woman as her 20 yo self. One is beautiful, and the other something gone wrong. Now maybe a countach Lp5000 shape is an upadate, but the 25 aniv shape is a travesty, loosing everything that made the orig or even prior updates great.
    Yes some cars can get updated an look similar or not too dissimilar, the porche 918 comes to mind or even aircooled 911's, alhough the 964 version lost the plot stylisticaly. A Miura, well I miss the eyelashes on the SV, but yeah its the same car.


    But we are not taking detroit style tinsel updates in what happened to the Tr and CT. The purity of an artists work was messed with by a kid with colored crayons.
     
  5. msdesignltd

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    #80 msdesignltd, May 20, 2015
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    Someone pointed out that the turbine design inside the M wheels is spinning opposite directions of each other
    In other words they did not pair off the wheels, they were all the same.
    If thats true, thats a mistake by Ferrari
    Otherwise the new changes do not bother me enough to dis on it.
    It actually looks quite sophisticated from most angles. I'd say Elite!
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    #81 msdesignltd, May 20, 2015
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    Can someone post correct left and right profiles of car wheels
    I googled and see 1 same and one opposite???

    This pic appears wrong wheel pattern for direction of spin
    Unless of course some idiot reversed the sides and mounted left on right and right on left
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    I agree with boxerman, the front just burns my ass. To desperate a face lift for my liking but hey, it's still part of the family and I congratulate anyone lucky enough to own one.
     
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    It is not true, as I pointed out in my earlier post.

    There are unique Right/Left wheels.
     
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    When I am tired a full front on view of the 918 reminds me of the Carrera GT. Which if you think of it both cars would be on the same level prestige wise since at the time'(S) each car was at the top of Porsche's price list. Its just the 918 uses a much higher level of technology and thus cost more, even double msrp!
     
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    Gee I guess that's why the parts book shows left and right numbers?
     
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    +100 ; love your gorgeous F512M
     
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  17. geno berns

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    Thank you. How do you like your's?

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    It makes sense that Ferrari had the twist on the wheels correct for air flow.

    The 90-94 300zx had this same twist to pull air out from the car (also the first car to start the flush headlamp trend)
     
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    Sorry I mistyped there, meant porche 928.

    918 far beetter looking than a carerra GT, juts less desireable as a drive.
     
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    I don't understand why people are so blown away that a 512m is 500k. From what I know they only brought in 75 of these. Back in the late 80's Ogner Ferrari of Woodland hills was selling a 1989 TR for 500k. That was at the time that Enzo had died. Adjusted for inflation that would be 1.5 million in today's money. That makes the 512m seem like a bargain.
     
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    #97 Long Beach Pride, May 23, 2015
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    Just about the same story with the 97 993 911 Turbo S. About 182 built for worldwide production. I forget how many were brought into the US but just like all the rare super cars as of late the value of the car has gone through the roof as have the regular Turbo editions. Though I do believe Porsche brought in about 75 or less S versions in 97. For years values remained level but just like everything else BOOM. Prices have exploded recently though I feel the Ferrari valuations are a little inflated because who made them. Alas that is what Ferrari's are for.

    I wouldn't doubt that both the F512M and 97 911TTS trading around $500 within the next year. Hell it was about 5 years ago one could look hard enough and find an 959 for about $350K or so. Now a #1 car is going for over $1.5MM.

    And yes I would take an 959 over an F40 but ask me about an 959 over a 288 GTO and you might get a different answer.

    And remember Ferrari only made the 512TR from 92-95 then the F512M 95 and 96 and if you have an 84 through 91 it's just a Testarossa. Sounds odd don't it "just a Testarossa" of which I would be more than happy to posses in Yellow. Red is just too common!
     
  23. F360-1386

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    Had the car back home only 3 weeks ago , drove it twice , I love the sound and power of the Flat 12 , I like it even better than the my 16M.
     
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    #99 Long Beach Pride, May 24, 2015
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    It's that intoxicating Boxer 12 BRRM Compared to just a high winding V8.

    Aren't they going back to V8 Turbo when the 458s replacement comes out?
     
  25. HOU

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    I have posted this before but will repeat. the curve in the f512m wheel is an extension of the rear fender curve.

    I noticed this one day when observing my car and the wheel was oriented in a position such that the fender line flowed exactly down through the wheel.

    someday I hope to visit pinnfarina and inquire about this.
     

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