Ferrari LaFerrari vs Mclaren P1 vs Porsche 918

Funny :-D if Porsche has not bespoken good, performance tires for its performance halo-car. It is a comic fail then.
Sorry,but you make not good PR for Porsche sales.

For comparison, Nissan supplied GTR even in nitrogen in its tires ;-). And GTR is so much cheaper.:-D

 

kandi,
your comments are desperate. Is it so difficult to give respect where is needed?
Take a look at Mark Antar - even he's more objective recently, haha

Usually, miracles don't happen in the automotive industry, but Porsche did it this time. Live with it...

 

Excellent rebuttal! Like I said before, there are smart P1 fans and there are ones that even McLaren would be embarrassed to have. Their posts are actually comical in that they are grasping at really trivial points that reveal how childish they are; can the smart P1 fans please tell these guys that after losing several battles the war has been lost. It is time to accept defeat and move on. Enjoy the P1 for what it is (a wickedly fast car that really challenges the driver) and what it isn't (it is not faster than the Porsche 918).

 

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:-D who is desperate. You are drowning into Porsche ethos ;-) and stating that Porsche is making miracles. All we heard before was that Porsche was about technology :-D.
Better take yourself a colourful book if you cant see what is wrong with notorious porsche fanboys and mclaren fanboys. McLaren fanboys were past, Porsche fanboys are even worse :-D.
Miracles- that was good. ;-).

 

After reading this all I have to say is you're really grasping at straws here Buddy!!!

So when does selling out a production run factor into which car is faster? I have to give you props on your loyalty though! BTW, if Porsche limited their run to the same as McLaren's they too would have sold out but again I don't know how this makes a car faster.

Your statements about the Porsche fans and miracles is even better! The accomplishments made by Porsche are verifiable and repeatable; miracles don't follow this pattern.

Would you like to insult the Ferrari fans for taking sides with Porsche fans here?

 

Easy tiger, I understand your nervousness and respect it.

All we heard before from Porsche was "Rocket Science"

 

That is incorrect. Pirelli makes some amazing tyres. The Trofeo R for example is the best semi-slick in business. The P1 was on the less track focused (but still serious performance rubber) P-Zero Corsa, whereas the 918 was on Cup 2 semis.

 

It didn't make sense that rwd was faster than 4 wheel drive in the wet.

Now this explains the performance of the p1 in the rain.
The p1 was on all round road performance tires vs 918 on track purpose tires.

 

And to whomever scanned the autocar article, why didn't you scan this page?
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Well said. And need to be said.

Thank You

 

Actually, I think this is a great page for Porsche if one actually reads the summary.

Despite the 918 being better in almost every way (including non speed/performances criteria, which the Porsche excels in as well), such as luxury, economy, amenities, sweet sounding NA aspirated engine, build construction, technology, utility vs P1, etc.), are you surprised Autocar gave the P1 first prize?

Come on now. I think that's how the article actually gets published (give P1 1st place). You know that!? Lol

Nonetheless, they had very good things to say about the 918, both in the article, and it's summary. What's not to like? Nothing embarrassing about that, especially if they want to stand up to their English compatriot--all things being considered, haven taken place. It's not the opinion many of us have issue with. It's the opinion and unproven innuendo's that get passed off as fact by many here (all the time), we have issue with.

Now, what's REALLY EMBARRASSING and deserves spotlight, is what Steve Sutcliffe has been saying, implying and actually doing regarding these vehicles.

 

Numbers don't lie.

Porsche. There is no substitute.

 

Exactly, but leave the bias aside. The Porsche was faster in the dry,

But slower in the wet. Tells you something

 

Yes, that it's faster...
Btw, both P1 and 918 have really terrible time in the wet, but who cares?

 

The entire rear subframe unbolts with 6 bolts and all fluid fittings will be quick disconnect.

The pit mechanics could do it very quickly,

We will be providing full race support for our costumer cars exactly the same as ours.

In the sixties the class winning 250 GTO at Le Mans drove back to Paris for a celebratory dinner. We hope to do the same.

 

That would be so amazing if you can repeat it. Absolutely love the idea of a modular sports car.

 

It's fully bolt together modular.

https://www.facebook.com/video.php?v=10152787748264941&set=vb.683964940&type=2&theater

 

Well of course that page is inherently flawed...

Watched Chris Harris' LaFerrari drive again last night, was a little tickled when he said "these two cars are in a class of two."

It's the 959 all over again. A technical marvel but lacking the spirit of the competition. Except this time two cars are the favorite ahead of the Porsche instead of the sole F40.

 

Yeah that was strange, common sense would necessitate that the 4WD car reign supreme in wet or any other sub-prime conditions. 918 being slower suggests that it's somehow a compromised, unstable platform which wasn't designed to handle many variables or simply that the P1 inspires more confidence in all conditions to allow the driver to be quicker.

Or it could be that they just gave it a half-hearted attempt in the wet. But then why would they publish it?

 

Oh, so wet times is the key now?

That's funny. I seem to recall not too long ago the flat-earthers said that wet times doesn't matter, it's the dry times that matters the most.

 

I see nothing, but praise for the 918. And something very interesting, having in mind previous SS attempt to review these cars:

"With a horsepower figure that started with merely an eight and a quoted weight some 200kg heavier than a P1’s, there was a chance that the horsepower race would have left it behind.

But WE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN. This is a Porsche and Porsche is rarely caught out. Accelerating in gears, through gears, on the road and on a circuit, the 918 Spyder has nothing to fear from any other car in its class."

 

This is a nonsensical discussion, frankly. Virtually no one cares about wet weather performance! It is all about dry weather performance! On track, I hardly push myself in wet weather and that is 99% of the drivers I drive with on track (unless of course you are in F1 and fighting for F1 championship points!!!) The 918 is faster than the P1 on the road and on track at least until 160 MPH possibly till 180 MPH. Lets accept that and move on.

Besides, wasn't it implied that the P1 changed tires and that is a major contributor to wet performance...

Oh lord, please give us an unbiased, impartial and fair 3 way test of the P1, 918 and LaF next!

 

For McLaren boys, even hauling will be important, if this helps their desperate statements from now on...

But nevertheless, this 918 vs P1 war is towards its end (we wait for the final nail in the coffin from TG), so I can entertain a little bit more...

 

Assuming they put the laf 3rd cos they didn't test it?

 

I love it . Watch all the mclaren cultists complain that Ferrari always beat the 12c and the 650 on subjective things . "It's the performance that counts " they cry "it's laptines that are important to us !" They howl .

Now the 918 hands the p1 it's ass on every track so far tested on , magically , it's now the SUBJECTIVE things that count ! It's so funny you couldn't make it up!!!!!!!!
You literally couldn't make it up