458 speciale curb weight

i think Ferrari lists 'dry weight', that is without fluids, probably without any fuel in the car. This could be the reason for the difference.

Determine how gas is in the car, calculate the weight and deduct it. What is that number?

 

If I recall correctly the radio delete is available in US you just simply don't choose any options for the radio.

I think Ferrari has always been a bit optimistic on the weight. Certainly an upleasant surprise when you expect a 3000lb car and all of a sudden it's more like 3500lbs with a driver included.

 

Ferrari's curb weight is with all fluids, but no fuel. Mine was 3287 lbs with full tank... I think they put on all carbon available, empty the trunk, take out everything loose inside and leave all options that increase the weight.

 

You do not really believe Ferrari will accept any other standards than their own when they determine the weight of their cars, do you
If you say your car weighs more than what they say the weight is it's because your scale is not an officially certified Ferrari scale Or maybe it's because where you live gravity is higher than in Maranello

 

Its cheaper (an healthier) to go on a diet than pay Ferrari for options that "reduce" weight

 

Hate to be blasphemous about Ferrari, but they lie all the time!
Doesn't matter if you are talking about models to be made, manufacturing schedules, etc. Weight, however, is one of the things they are the worst about! Ferrari has always understated their weights.
Weight of F12 is vastly heavier than what they say. Just check numerous road tests of this car as well.
Sorry.
Best,
Randy

 

Spot on in my experience. My Scuderia was spec'd with none of the luxury items such as leather, radio/speakers etc, etc. It had none of the big ticket carbon fibre bits like the engine cover, rear diffuser and side sills. The c/f stuff saves about 22lbs or 10kgs from memory.

I filled the car to the brim with fuel and put it on the race scales with the tools/manuals pouch on board. It came in at 1360kg once the fuel weight was deducted and Ferrari claimed 1350kg. I also went through the same procedure with my 308GTB Fibreglass bodied car and a mates 308GTB metal bodies car. The results were all pretty close to Ferraris stated curb weights.

When I get my 458 Speciale in late July I will put it on the race scales. The car is again spec'd with no luxury items and none of the carbon fibre bodywork options. I would expect it to weigh close to Ferraris claimed figure.

 

So we assume: The speciale is a "tanker" and only 50kgs lighter than a stock
458 !!!!

 

Reading what you write here I don't think we can call them "liers".... For example your car has sure some options included (if I remember you have leather and the seatings were different right?) and at the end she weights about 1.427 kg when they declare 1.395 kg with the most favorable combination of options as written in the owner manual (not the most popular options included). So the difference in your car is +32 kg. Let us assume that you have about 10 kg of options ok? At the end the difference will be about 22 kg. The difference between your car and what they declared at the end is 1,6%. So can we call them liers for this?Next week I will weight mine with professional scale and let you know. The Italian magazine Quuattroruote made a full test. The car was weighting 1.456 kg with fuel. Fuel is about 64,5 kg.Of course that car was prepared at best by Ferrari and this means with the "most favorable combination of options".They are not liers or at least not more than others.

 

Would US bound cars be possibly heavier due to heavier bumpers and beefier crash zones because of stricter transportation laws that also do not allow 4 point harnesses and roll cage bars?

I noticed US bound cars also have the extra side marker lamps...wonder how heavier such parts might weigh?

Would the '4 point' harness weigh less than the common 3 point seat belt system?

 

Didn't tell them liars... Just wanted to say that they are quite flexible in handling standards... Ferrari's weight determination is according to no international standard...

 

Here are the weights from my Italia before going on the track at Daytona. Full fuel
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I didn't mean about you, sorry..

 

did you cross-jack the fronts for the banking? presume that did not include you in the car.

hope you are doing well Joe, look forward to pics and impressions of the new car

 

did you cross-jack the fronts for the banking? presume that did not include you in the car.

hope you are doing well Joe, look forward to pics and impressions of the new car

 

3.287 lbs is 1.494 kg not 1.427, BTW.

 

My MY13 italia weights 1470kg~3.234lbs with approx. 10 liters of fuel. I have carbon bucket seats with alcantara pack and some carbon inside. I don't have navi, JBL, lift, AFS, extra leather trim etc. With full tank, we can assume it weights around 1530kg~3366lbs which is about 50kg heavier than most Speciales.

 

Yes but when you detract the fuel....

 

The lift system I think adds around 70lbs. Can anyone confirm?

 

No did, nothing. Just got out of the car to take the picture.

 

Can you detach the fire extinguisher and see how much it weighs? Just curious to see how much it weighs.

 

I believe the front lift system adds approximately 10kg over the front axle.