I hear you..... I decided to do a Google Search. Sure enough, here it is: For some reason it wont allow me to post a link here so I copied and pasted the post at maserati life dot com forums "Ferrari of Seattle: Have you ever been charged for an after repair road test?($65) How about for having your keys reprogramed? ($65) Or charged again for another road test?($65) And why not a parking brake inspection fee before repair? ($65) If not I can tell you I did at Ferrari of Seattle, a charge here and a charge there and the 3-4 hour initial labour quote turned into $873. I agree there were some parts involved, aprox. $60 but the difference it's just an outrage. 3-4 hours of labor x 130=max $520 + $60 for parts = $580 so $300 difference. This is the kind of service Ferrari of Seattle provides to their customer. A rippoff is what I call it. Is there anyone experiencing the same issues? Thanks."
By the local dealer Foreign Cars Italia in Greensboro. Those prices were off the invoice. I think that the owner paid for the parts and the dealer picked up the labor (he purchased the car from them so it was probably some kind of warranty). Alan
Common practice, no. I can share with you that when performing WARRANTY repairs ( ie: repair paid for by FNA ) that there is a labor operation for road test(s) IE: A labor operation that pays .1-.8 depending on length of test drive. This is because FNA wants an itemization of each repair down to the tenth. I'll see what I can find out and post back soon, S
I got flamed for posting this last time, ages ago, but here in NZ, to have a clutch replaced, including parts and labour is $3500NZ. Around $3K US. I have no idea why, or how these shops in the US can charge so much. It makes no sense. The guys here also pay wages, rent, tax etc etc etc. Unless our techs are faster to do the job. If anything it should be less to have the same thing done there. Bigger numbers, buy more, buy better.................Not so it seems.
I recently got a quote from a well respected Ferrari shop here in Italy of 2440 for a clutch replacement; about $3300 US.
I spent less than 4k for what they quoted you. Either there's a misunderstanding or FoS is completely trying to take you for a ride. Nowadays you don't need to get things done at a official dealer, there's many great shops and they won't try to rip you off.
Thank you everyone for sharing your knowledge and experiences. I will be taking my future 360 to an independent mechanic for sure. Dan
Not sure where they are purchasing the parts from as the parts for mine was that amount and didn't include labor and it must have been at least 4 or 5 hours. I just checked the prices against what Ricambi have listed and the dealer charged approximately 20% less. Not sure if that was part of the warranty deal with the previous owner but you would have to figure that the dealer would charge list prices for parts if he was providing an estimate. Alan
"lords name" for $3000 I have new front brembo kit for sale...just saying that is insane. Maybe we should talk.
What are you looking for in a "brake job"? Some would think this might be new pads, others might throw in new discs, others might consider renewing the brake hoses, some might flush the fluid, others just bleed a little and top off. Are you wanting the calipers to be refurbished and have the seals changed? What about the master cylinder are you changing that too? The length of a piece of string can vary.
What are you looking for in a "brake job"? Some would think this might be new pads, others might throw in new discs, others might consider renewing the brake hoses, some might flush the fluid, others just bleed a little and top off. Are you wanting the calipers to be refurbished and have the seals changed? What about the master cylinder are you changing that too? The length of a piece of string can vary.
$3k sounds like an awful lot then but are you happy they are quoting apples to your apples? Genuine Brembo replacement discs (made to replace OEM Brembo on multiples of cars that use similar spec discs) can be had for circa $150 each I would say. Pads all round - depends on what variety you use but I would say something in the order of $600~800 would probably be safe. Two litres of the most expensive fluid should be no more than $200 Labour - shouldn't take a DIY person more than half a day to change out the lot. A bit longer if not familiar with the tasks. Easy job, no real problems to encounter.
I can get all the components for 2073 retail sent to Italy from England. I have to let out a sigh every time I find components available cheaper in England than here in Italy. I gotta' suppose that a huge Ferrari specialist shop just down the road from the Ferrari factory would have access to better prices than I do, so 2440 sounds about right for a clutch replacement. Of course, nobody in Italy is going to order parts from Ricambiamerica and I doubt if any repair shop in Italy would base their parts prices on what a U.S. parts supplier charges.
I bought the parts last year and had a friend do the work. Ferrari OEM pads + rotors were $1800, that's for both axles.
So your independent Ferrari shop allows you to furnish the parts and they install? That is a good deal. Alan
No. Sorry if that's the way you read my post. I was responding to someone comparing the quote I got from a shop here in Italy with the cost of his parts in the U.S. I think he was wondering how my shop could do the job for the same price as the cost of his parts. But I don't think he realized I live in Italy so the situation was apples and oranges. It seems as though Ferrari parts are more expensive in the U.S. in nearly every case. For me, nearly every part is less expensive in the U.K., even considering shipping, than they are here in Italy. But I would assume a Ferrari dealership or a large well-connected Ferrari shop here in Italy would have better connections and would source their parts from Ferrari, something I can't do. I'll try to put things in perspective again. The Italian shop in question can change a clutch for around 400 more than I can buy the parts at retail and have them shipped from England. That certainly is not the same as saying he will do the work for 400 if I walk in with an arm load of parts. Naturally, because he can get parts at a better price than I, he has roughly the right amount of profit for a simple clutch change.
At first I thought "Import Duties at work", but then I also thought "currency differences" and with Italian parts I'm even wondering if the Italian states levy a tax on the parts that pure export goods do not. I.e. if you keep the part in the local supply chain, that results in a local tax versus just exporting with a currency conversion being cheaper. I'm even wondering if some of the inventory is being heldat parts prices that are the result of a weaker US Dollar a few months ago. Until those clear the inventory, cheaper parts paid with todays conversion rates favoring the dollar will have to wait.
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If you have the ability to do the brakes then I would do them yourself.. Factory pads should cost about $600.00 - which would include the wear sensors for the front. No wear sensors on the rear. I would check the rotors and clean up. If they have grooves or rust I would replace them. I'm not big on turning rotors. There is a places out there that have great prices on rotors. $3,000 for the dealer - they can go scratch. If you rotors are good.. its a real easy job. You could press the calipers back without even removing them Replace pads.. check you work then bleed. I doubt your rotors require replacement unless pads got so worn that you hit metal to metal meaning pad metal to rotor leaving a deep groove.. Its a nice way to bond with the car. R
