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Do Boxers have fitted luggage?

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  1. jonack

    jonack Formula Junior

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    Were 512 Boxers offered with optional luggage? If so where were these pieces stored?
    the trunk? behind the seats? Is there enough room back there? in those tine storage bins at the back of the engine bay?
     
  2. miurasv

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    #2 miurasv, Sep 5, 2013
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    I may be wrong but I don't think the Boxer (unless a few BB512i came with them?) had fitted luggage like the Testarossa had a case you could store behind the seats. On the Boxer you just squeezed stuff behind the limited space behind the seats. There are no storage bins at the back of the engine bay. There is very limited space under the hood/bonnet to store a small soft bag.

    See here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/boxers-tr-m/279420-ferrari-boxer-schedoni-luggage-sale.html
     
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  4. miurasv

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    Was this available on the 512 carb?
     
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  6. miurasv

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    Thank you, Kevin. What about the 365? Were these an official Ferrari option or after market?
     
  7. Murph

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    It's possible for a 365 but not likely.
    Schedoni's partnership with Ferrari did not start until 1976.
    They were the official supplier of luggage for Ferrari.

    Schedoni History:

    Its roots run deep and its tradition is more alive than ever. The story of the Schedoni name is the story of a family that has been producing high quality leather goods for over 130 years. A dynasty that has successfully handed down the skills of a craft turned art form – the craft of working leather, with passion, dedication and discernment to create precious articles that stand the test of time.

    In 1880 Celso Schedoni, the head of this all-Modenese dynasty, opened up a small workshop in Formigine, where he worked on handmade footwear.

    In the 1930s his son, Giuseppe, was only a teenager when Celso died and left him the business, passing on his passion at the same time. So, Giuseppe decided to sell all the machinery and equipment to a shoemaker in Modena, on the condition that he would teach him how to perfect the techniques of the trade. In a few years, he became Production Manager in the firm.

    After the terrible war years, the 1950s brought a period of re-birth and with pride, courage and determination the country set about rebuilding itself.

    Giuseppe proved to possess all these values and, in remembrance of his father too, he decided to start up his own business in Modena: a shoemaker’s workshop specialised in the production of high-quality handmade footwear. The years that followed, the economic boom years, saw Giuseppe running a firm with over 140 employees and a production of 90 hand-made pairs of shoes a day. The passion for the valuable crafted products, passed down from his father, resisted the passing of time. As did the skills required in all the different working stages to create the high-quality product that the customers of those days were accustomed to.

    But the boom soon generated a consumer frenzy, and people wanted to forget the war, poverty and desperation. They wanted to start living again and in a hurry. The market was dynamic and competitive and the companies evolved, modernising their structures and becoming highly active.

    In the 1970s it was Giuseppe’s son, Mauro, with his diploma in his pocket, which joined his father’s firm. He shook up the firm, turning it into a modern, family-run enterprise. Mauro had the creative streak and the same love and enthusiasm for his work that first his grandfather and then his father had had. He anticipated the new orientation of the market and decided to diversify the activity. He initiated new product lines, first of all leather goods, then clothing and accessories, all 100% leather, and all the highest quality. His wife Maria-Grazia joined him in running the company and taking care of the administration department.

    With his managerial approach, Mauro transmitted his innovative energy to the firm and realised that modernization still needed values. The value that lasts longest in time is product quality and that is why he has remained constantly faithful to the family tradition. All Schedoni products are still handmade with his grandfather Celso’s care and devotion. Now, Mauro selects the tanned hides, personally checks his employees’ work and inspects the finished products with the invaluable help of his father.

    In 1976, it was with this spirit of enterprise that, thanks to a chance encounter, Mauro began working with Ferrari Automobili S.p.A.. The encounter was not only with a company but also, above all, with a man with incredible charisma, both from a professional and a human perspective: Enzo Ferrari.

    It was 1976, and Mauro Schedoni’s brother-in-law, Mr. Franco Folli who owned a Ferrari 308 GTB, asked him to make a set of luggage to fit the baggage compartment of his new car. The traditional travel sets were neither the right shape nor size for his ‘red racer’. Mauro, getting just as much pleasure out of the task as his brother-in-law would, decided to make a Christmas gift of the luggage. So under the tree that year, Franco Folli found a travel set that was perfectly shaped to suit the unusual trunk of his new car. Of course, Christmas is traditionally a time for family and friends and during this festive season the Ferrari Sales Manager happened to pay a visit to Mauro’s brother-in-law. He immediately fell in love with the Schedoni luggage noting ‘At last we’ve found the answer to all those people who complain about not being able to fit their luggage in their Ferrari’… and that was how the Ferrari-Schedoni alliance was born. From then on, it has continued to flourish as a mutual and true partnership. Schedoni has become not simply a supplier to Ferrari, but an associate, actively sustaining the relationship with the study and production of valid designs to meet the needs of the customer.

    Immediately afterward Schedoni was called upon to produce for what was then Hollywood’s Ferrari Dealer in California, the upholstery for the 308. Between 1977 and 1980, he produced 19 impressive interiors. From then on, Schedoni became the official manufacturer of all leather goods bearing the Ferrari name.

    In the early 1980s, Ferrari already was publishing pictures of its own cars with the exclusive luggage set which, presented as an option, immediately became a cult object.

    Meantime, the relationship with the Maranello car manufacturer shifted gears and in 1983, Schedoni began working with the Ferrari Formula 1 team to design and manufacture seat covers for it’s racing cars.

    This represented a great challenge for the company because, in addition to the mastery and quality of the product, this also would involve considerable research to obtain the high technology level required for such designs. Machines were designed especially to carry out the unusual working processes for the carefully selected leather, all kinds of which were tried and tested before the one that could meet all the technical and comfort requirements was found. Since then, drivers like Arnoux, Tambay, Alboreto, Johansson, Prost, Mansell, Alesi, Berger, Irvine, Barrichello, Schumacher, Raikkonen, Felipe Massa and Fernando Alonso have raced cars with Schedoni upholstery. The Ferrari Team partnership grew even closer and more constant, from design decisions to choices of hides and their treatment, assembly and other items which are equally fundamental when putting the finishing touches to a car designed to win.

    In 1983 and 1987, respectively, Elisa and Simone, Schedoni’s fourth generation, joined management, introducing a new round of changes to the firm, in pursuit of still higher goals. Elisa, working in production and planning, and Simone, within the sales area, have not betrayed the family nature. They have inherited the same work ethics and beliefs in the value of quality, and participate with primary roles in the development and the growth of the family firm. In 1989, Elisa’s husband, Pierluigi, joined the team in the role of Technical Manager.

    In addition Schedoni carried out other usual work over the years. The most prestigious of which was designing the gift Ferrari presented to Pope John Paul II during his visit to Maranello in 1988: a special suitcase for celebrating the Holy Mass, which is currently kept at the Vatican Museum.

    Schedoni’s success with Formula 1 products led to additional work for Ferrari in the mid 1990’s, when it created seat covers for the Ferrari F50 (349 vehicles).

    Over 35 years of professional life alongside Ferrari – it’s a story within a story.

    Schedoni is committed to growing and keeping this relationship alive, guaranteeing the same professional commitment, the same attention to detail and the same love of challenge.

    In addition to Ferrari, Schedoni also counts the most prestigious car manufacturers from Italy and abroad among its current and past clients: Bentley, Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce, Pagani, Audi, Alfa Romeo, Maserati, VW and Morgan. or which it produces custom fitted luggage sets, colour box, leather goods for merchandising collections. All the items distributed through these car manufacturers’ sales networks.

    Beside the Automotive Industry, the Company produces high end corporate / incentive gifts.

    Elisa, Simone and Pierluigi have a common vision: to continue Schedoni’s reputation for tradition, quality and prestige with the production of unique and timeless leather goods.

    Their hope is to hand down a legacy to the next generation Alessio, Niccolò and Sara a company rich in history and passion.
     
  8. miurasv

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    ^^^^ Thank you again, Kevin. Superb information.
     
  9. jonack

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    This is great, Thank you. amazingly about an hour after i made this post I located a 512, for sale, available with its luggage! although there where no photos and I was unsure where and how the luggage fit. Thanks for helping-
     
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    I've seen a 365 sold with luggage, no idea if "period correct"....
     
  12. aerobroker

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    I have a set (2 pieces) - beautiful. I'll be putting them on the site soon for sale. These have never been used - stored for 30 years in their linen bags. Contact me at [email protected] if interested. Thanks
     
  13. 4redno

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    I remember being told by a member of Ferrari's F1 team that Schedoni used to reupholster the molded seat in each F1 car after every race. They were covered in carefully scythed leather, resulting in a beautiful suede finish. This finish was ideal for keeping the drivers from sliding around in their seats (no matter how tight the racing harness is pulled, you slide a bit at those speeds and g-forces which is not optimal). If you see a previously used seat, you can see that the driver's sweat would stain the suede and mat down the suede. So in typical Ferrari F1 fashion, Schedoni recovered the molded seat after each race.

    It appears that Schedoni no longer covers Ferrari's F1 seats as they appear uncovered.

    FYI...Keith
     
  14. Rifledriver

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    I do not believe Schedoni does anything for Ferrari anymore.
     
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    That's my take as well.

    They discontinued making the recreated vintage sets, and when you look at the Neimen Marcus FF, the luggage is the modern tech fabrics, it's no longer leather at all.

    The vintage situation sounds as if Ferrari took the license back, to me.

    I think they can still make a seat for my Ducati though!
     
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    That's exactly what the Ducati needs, as the stock seat is slick plastic, and Valeria did not like it AT ALL!!
     
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    schedoni is no longer the official supplier.
    that honor now belongs to poltrona frau if i am not mistaken, and that is purely political...
     
  18. Rifledriver

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    Poltrona Frau has been supplying interior parts for quite a few years. Maybe as far back as TR512 but 550/456 for certain.
     
  19. 4redno

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    Ferrari started getting much more savvy about licensing in the mid-90's. Up until that point, licensing represented a very small portion of their revenue but they've come on strong ever since. I doubt if a small company like Schedoni can make financial sense of the licensing fees Ferrari charges its partners now.

    Keith.
     
  20. John Peterson

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    I was extremely lucky for find a set of the luggage for my BBi a number of years ago on E-bay. The exteriors are near perfect, but there was some deterioration of the interior materials. I tried contacting Schedoni...even in Italian...but never received a reply about refinishing the interiors. Having the set of luggage is just one more plus for the car and any FCA judging events...John
     
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    No points for luggage. I like it and all but we really just need it out of the way to see the interior condition. There is no point value to it of any kind. We have a set for the TR and use it but when we won a couple of awards with the car at the National FCA meet in 2012 the luggage stayed in the hotel room.

    A number of English speakers at Schedoni. I would call on the phone.
     
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  23. Rifledriver

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    I know Ted pretty well and I bet he got close to asking. He knows the market and hates to discount stuff.

    He also has no problem letting it sit until he gets what he wants. He knows it is money in the bank.
     
  24. John Peterson

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    No doubt that you're correct on no additional points for the luggage, but I feel that it adds something "extra" to the presentation and shows more dedication to the model. I always bring extras to any meet such as my parts and repair manuals along with full documentation, the full tool kit in the proper color case and a full jack bag/kit.

    When I bought my car in 1986, it didn't even have the matching color luggage straps, but I got those from Eurospares. My set of luggage took 20 years to find, was much less expensive than that for the BB from Rutlands, but probably not in as good condition as far as the interior goes.

    At the FCA meet at Road America in 2009, where the Boxer was the featured model, my car was the only one with the luggage. I removed the pieces for the judging, which allowed full inspection of the interior. The Platino award that I received at that event capped my showing of the car over many,many years. I washed-out of the Coppa Bella Machina competition at that event, because I first had a blown fuse for my lights, which I repaired, but then had a second issue with the windshield washer system.

    I recently attended the "Tutto Italiano" meet at the Larz Anderson Museum in Brookline, MA, where the Boxer took first place in the Ferrari division out of over 200 Ferraris present. I had all of the extras there including a picture of the car at speed on the F1 course at Indy in 2005. I can't help but feel that having all the extra items set my Boxer apart from the rest of the field...John
     
  25. -CD-

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    Schumacher changed this system! After Schedoni fitted the old race seats in cuoio,
    Michael choose black and the black upholstery was much more durable!

    And Poltrona Frau delievers the interior leather since but Schedoni is still the supplier
    of the luggage sets.

    Greetings Christian
     

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