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  1. ggjjr

    ggjjr Formula Junior

    Nov 11, 2003
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    George
    Thank you very much. It is a very good looking watch, in addition to the historical significance.

    George
     
  2. NürScud

    NürScud F1 Veteran

    Nov 3, 2012
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    I wonder for how much will the 333 SP be sold. I'm just curious. Any car's history?
     
  3. Boudewijn

    Boudewijn F1 Rookie
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    May 15, 2003
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    Boudewijn Berkhoff
    No racing history: garage queen from the start.
     
  4. modena1967

    modena1967 Formula Junior

    Oct 7, 2012
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    Philippe Guennou
    The engraving only says that Fangio gave this Watch to his mechanic "Juango" Justo Perez in august 1958. I would like to know more about Fangio/Fidel story and this particular Watch.
     
  5. DM18

    DM18 F1 Rookie

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  6. odgemeister

    odgemeister Karting

    Feb 5, 2012
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    Just a non-Ferrari related bump on this thread

    I've just seen the 1937 Bugatti Type 57SC Atalante #57-523 which Gooding and Co are selling. I often get confused with Bugatti values, but isn't this a $30 million car?
     
  7. Napolis

    Napolis Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 23, 2002
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    Jim Glickenhaus
    #107 Napolis, Aug 13, 2013
    Last edited: Aug 13, 2013
    The kidnappers/Fidel gave it to Fangio who later gave it to his mechanic "Juango". The watch dealer was based in Havana at the time.

    "During Havana’s golden age, Cuervo y Sobrinos became known worldwide, distributing the finest watches and clocks. Prominent figures of the day, enjoying the adventure and tropical elegance of Havana, became regular visitors to the boutique that was established on Havana’s Fifth Avenue in 1882. This family business flourished under successive generations of Cuervo family watchmakers.

    The Cuervo family fled Havana during the revolution, abandoning the store and the brand. The “rebirth” of Cuervo y Sobrinos watches began in the late 1990’s to restore the brand to its former position."


    http://www.britishpathe.com/video/disaster-at-cuban-grand-prix-after-fangio-kidnappi/query/Havana
     
  8. Atombender

    Atombender Karting

    Apr 6, 2012
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    #108 Atombender, Aug 13, 2013
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    I think you're confusing Atalante with Atlantic. Both are Type 57 but you can google them to see the difference. Atalante's are still very rare and beautiful, here's one at last year's Techno Classica. It was a bit unfortunate that the 57 shared a stand with a Veyron (not shown) which drew most of the attention especially from the younger folks.
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  9. odgemeister

    odgemeister Karting

    Feb 5, 2012
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    Yes, I think you're right there. Thanks for clearing that up!
     
  10. Ed Niles

    Ed Niles Formula 3
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    Sep 7, 2004
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    Edwin K. Niles
    Sorry; haven't been keeping up. Peter Helm had 0380 with smoke pouring out of one exhaust. He had Sal DiNatale install a Chevy, and I bought the engine and sold it to Weiss, who installed it the Kimberly car. To sidetrack the thread further, has 0380 ever surfaced? Roger W., who ended up with it, claimed it was destroyed, but I find that hard to believe. I used to write to him regularly, as he didn't like to be bothered about the car.
     
  11. Timmmmmmmmmmy

    Timmmmmmmmmmy F1 Rookie

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    The Type 57 Atalante and Type 57S Atalante were similar cars with a closely related "look" but were actually totally different chassis types. The Type 57S and its supercharged twin Type 57SC were based on the much lower S chassis and it featured an upswung rear. The cost of building the S chassis and the lack of sales success compared to the standard Type 57 and its supercharged twin Type 57C meant that Type 57S/57SC production was cancelled in 1937 and any outstanding orders were supplied with Type 57/57C. As an aside the Type 57S/57SC is supposed to be hot and slightly cramped for the driver/ passenger. Lastly the rarity and beauty of the 57S ensures that they are worth some 5 times the standard 57.
     
  12. Randy

    Randy Formula 3

    Nov 9, 2003
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    any news on how the Russo & Steele auction went last night
     
  13. The Red Baron

    The Red Baron Formula 3

    Jan 3, 2005
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    Auction live feeds.
    Anyone have the URL's for RM, or Goodings

    Much appreciated.
     
  14. Daytonafan

    Daytonafan F1 Rookie

    Oct 18, 2003
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    Bonhams just sold the Vignale Europa 0313EU for $2,805,000 including premium.
     
  15. vintageferrari330

    Jul 11, 2012
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    What was the estimate before the sale?
     
  16. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 4, 2003
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    400 superamrica at rm sold for 2.4M and dino just sold for 430k
     
  17. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Nov 4, 2003
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    Daytona 16691 hit $680 in less than a minute
     
  18. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Sold at $700k plus comission
     
  19. ProCoach

    ProCoach F1 Veteran
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    Sep 15, 2004
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    $700K for a Daytona Coupe in blue? Sounds strong.
     
  20. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    yes, but commission and tax aren't accounted for....
     
  21. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    0038M

    166 MM Barchetta sold for hammer $2.8M
     
  22. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    PF cab 1939 is sold at $1.175m
     
  23. tx246

    tx246 F1 Veteran
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    Lusso went for $1.26m
     
  24. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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    Oct 17, 2001
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    Finally Daytonas are selling for what they should.
     

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