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Sn of this 250 TR ?

Discussion in 'Recreations & Non-Period Rebodies' started by amenasce, Oct 21, 2008.

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  1. amenasce

    amenasce Three Time F1 World Champ
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  2. sicqnus

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    A replica.
     
  3. amenasce

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    Front does look a little off. But what a gorgeous car nonetheless !!!

    Anymore info ?
     
  4. dim

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    PF coupe s/n 1067GT rebodied by Giordanengo
     
  5. Tom Roland

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    #5 Tom Roland, Oct 21, 2008
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  6. kare

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    Hardly this car, 1067GT was dark blue when new. Best wishes, Kare
     
  7. amenasce

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    Any idea how much it cost ? Who owns it ? ( The TR )
     
  8. T308

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    ex-Gene Ponder, sold for $341,000 in 2007.
     
  9. Marcel Massini

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    This is 1093 GT, not 1067 GT.
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  10. James in Denver

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    Interestingly, it must have qualified for the Colorado Grand at some point, its got a Colorado Grand # on it.

    I dont know the specific rules for the Colorado Grand, but I was under the assumptions that "replicas" were frowned upon in classic events. Does the Colorado Grand have a bit less rigorous rules?

    James in Denver
     
  11. Marcel Massini

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    Believed to be owned by John Calley (movie director) in CA.
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  12. Tom Roland

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    Sorry, my mistake. 1067GT was registered 701 HR 75. Cheers.
     
  13. Christian Giordanengo

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    i have make only the body, and not the paint.
    i have make many cars but no one with this color.
     
  14. amenasce

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    Where is this car now?
     
  15. John Vardanian

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    #17 spiritedauto, May 31, 2013
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    Hi guys,

    1067 GT still belongs to the estate. I have attached a recent photo. The cars will be for sale so please contact me directly if you'd like to know more. I will put you in touch with those in charge of the cars.

    These cars are allowed in some events. It depends on the paperwork the cars have. Some are eligible for FIA/HTP paperwork, which allows them to partake in most of the major events (but not all). To qualify for that paperwork the cars must be 100% built of out correct parts from the correct year. This TR is eligible because built completely on a 1958 250 PF. I don't think any parts were used from a later model, such as 250 GTE/330 GT2+2 as many rebodies were...

    There is definitely a market for cars such as this. I was just reading another thread on the forum here about "why replicas"... In this case I think there were two reasons for building these cars. 1) People wanted the experience, but couldn't afford an original. 2) Owners of originals wanted replicas of their cars to run in events (as prices were rising).

    It is definitely questionable, but they exist and we may as well accept it and appreciate them for what they are.

    Robert
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  17. amenasce

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    PM sent. What are the other cars in the pic? I see 2 250 GTOs?
     
  18. bigodino

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    I see four! (allthough the yellow one could be a SWB).
     
  19. El Wayne

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    The red car at the right foreground is 250 GTE s/n 3103 GT, rebodied as a '64 GTO. The blue & yellow car at the left rear is 250 GTE s/n 2901 GT, rebodied as a '62-63 GTO. I believe the yellow car at the right rear is 250 GTE s/n 3237 GT, rebodied as an SWB berlinetta. I don't know the identity of the red "GTO" at the far left.
     
  20. Bryanp

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    just nauseating; 4 butchered originals in one garage . . .
     
  21. Terra

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    The John Calley estate?

    Back in the 1960s, he actually owned some really great Ferraris (i.e. SWBs, 250 GTO, etc.).
     
  22. El Wayne

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    Most likely five:

    1. 1067 GT
    2. 2901 GT
    3. 3103 GT
    4. 3237 GT
    5. Unidentified red "GTO" at left.
     
  23. kare

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    If such a car is eligible for anything it is because right people were involved. There is no way anyone can prove that fake is built using period parts only - and I cannot see why that would really matter. Most replicas carrying a period serial number are usually built using a random chassis, sad but true.
    My advice 1) Buy a car you can afford. A fake will not provide the experience, only a fool might think so. 2) Buy a car you really can afford.
    Many questionable things have been defended with this argument and it always sounds a little funny. My mind always plays the same trick on me and as a result I start to ponder whether child pornography could be defended with the same argument...
     
  24. thecheddar

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    To compare a debate about cars made from parts of a different model to that terrible human horror is pretty warped. Let's keep this stuff in perspective.
     

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