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Ascari at Monaco in 1950

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  1. 250GTTDFZagatoCoupe

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    #1 250GTTDFZagatoCoupe, Jan 21, 2013
    Does anyone know which chassis number Ascari drove at Monaco in 1950?
    125-C-01 or 02?
     
  2. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #2 Sire Bruno de Losckley, Jan 21, 2013
    in my file "014C"
     
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    #5 El Wayne, Jan 21, 2013
    Here's what I have for Ferraris at the '50 Monaco GP:

    125 F1 s/n C-01, Alberto Ascari (#40), 2nd place
    125 F1 s/n C-02, Luigi Villoresi (#38), DNF due to transmission failure
    125 F1 s/n GP-08C, Raymond Sommer (#42), 4th place
    125 F1 s/n GP-10C, Peter Whitehead (#28), DNS due to engine failure
     
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    #6 250GTTDFZagatoCoupe, Jan 21, 2013
    Freakin awesome you guys. Thanks as usual. You all make it so easy to lose yourself in this history. I cant get enough! My wife on the other hand....
    "Can you please take your 40 ferrari books off of the coffee table please"
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  7. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #7 Sire Bruno de Losckley, Jan 22, 2013
    Alberto Ascari 125 F1 n°40 014C
    Raymond Sommer 125 F1 n°42 08C
    Luigi "Gigi" Villoresi 125 F1 n°38 016C
    Peter Whitehead 125 F1 n°28 010C

    in my file
     
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    #8 El Wayne, Jan 22, 2013
    I don't have a great deal of information on the early monopostos, but I believe that the confusion here stems from the fact that these SF cars were renumbered and sold off in 1951. I don't have access to my files right now to confirm which cars became which, however. Perhaps someone else will chime in?
     
  9. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #9 Sire Bruno de Losckley, Jan 22, 2013
    I would like to know also. I am mistaken?
     
  10. Boudewijn

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    #10 Boudewijn, Jan 22, 2013
    This is a list of the cars used in 1950 the way I have them:

    1950-01-08: Buenos Aires FL, GP-02C, Ferrari 166C, Juan Manuel Fangio, 4th
    1950-01-08: Buenos Aires FL, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, Peter Whitehead, ?
    1950-01-08: Buenos Aires FL, C-01, Ferrari 166C, Alberto Ascari, damage
    1950-01-08: Buenos Aires FL, C-02, Ferrari 166C, Luigi Villoresi, 1st
    1950-01-08: Buenos Aires FL, C-03, Ferrari 166C, Dorino Serafini, 2nd
    1950-01-15: Mar del Plata FL, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, Peter Whitehead, ?
    1950-01-15: Mar del Plata FL, C-01, Ferrari 166C, Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-01-15: Mar del Plata FL, C-02, Ferrari 166C, Luigi Villoresi, accident
    1950-01-15: Mar del Plata FL, C-03, Ferrari 166C, Juan Manuel Fangio, accident
    1950-01-22: Rosario FL, GP-02C, Ferrari 166C, Benedicto Campos, 2nd
    1950-01-22: Rosario FL, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, Peter Whitehead, ?
    1950-01-22: Rosario FL, C-01, Ferrari 166C, Alberto Ascari, gear lever
    1950-01-22: Rosario FL, C-02, Ferrari 166C, Luigi Villoresi, 1st
    1950-01-22: Rosario FL, C-03, Ferrari 166C, Juan Manuel Fangio, accident
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #2 Juan Manuel Fangio, 3rd
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, GP-04C, Ferrari 166F2, #12 Giovanni Bracco, withdrawn
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #14 Roberto Vallone, retired
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2, #6 Raymond Sommer, 4th
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, C-01, Ferrari 166F2, #10 Alberto Ascari, 2nd
    1950-03-19: Marseilles F2, C-02, Ferrari 166F2, #8 Luigi Villoresi, 1st
    1950-04-10: Pau F1, GP-08C, Ferrari 125F1, #6 Raymond Sommer, 4th
    1950-04-10: Pau F1, GP-12C, Ferrari 125F1, #2 Luigi Villoresi, 2nd
    1950-04-10: Pau F1, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #4 Alberto Ascari, transmission
    1950-04-10: Goodwood F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #24 Peter Whitehead, DNS
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, GP-04C, Ferrari 125F1, Giovanni Bracco, accident
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, GP-06C, Ferrari 125F1, Roberto Vallone, 4th
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, GP-08C, Ferrari 125F1, Raymond Sommer, fuel pump
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, Peter Whitehead, overheating
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, GP-12C, Ferrari 125F1, Dorino Serafini, oil pressure
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, C-01, Ferrari 125F1, Alberto Ascari, accident
    1950-04-16: San Remo F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, Luigi Villoresi, 2nd
    1950-05-07: Modena F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #16 Juan Manuel Fangio, engine
    1950-05-07: Modena F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #20 Mario Tadini, 2nd
    1950-05-07: Modena F2, GP-12C, Ferrari 166F2, #18 Dorino Serafini, overheating
    1950-05-07: Modena F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #14 Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-05-07: Roubaix F2, GP-04C, Ferrari 166F2, #12 Giovanni Bracco, engine
    1950-05-07: Roubaix F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2, #10 Raymond Sommer, 1st
    1950-05-07: Erlen F2, GP-10C, Ferrari 166F2, #28 Roberto Vallone, 2nd
    1950-05-07: Erlen F2, C-02, Ferrari 166F2, #26 Luigi Villoresi, 1st
    1950-05-14: Mons F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, Franco Cortese, 3rd
    1950-05-14: Mons F2, GP-10C, Ferrari 166F2, Roberto Vallone, retired
    1950-05-14: Mons F2, GP-12C, Ferrari 166F2, Luigi Villoresi, 2nd
    1950-05-14: Mons F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #4 Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-05-14: Medoc F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2, #12 Raymond Sommer, 3rd
    1950-05-21: Monaco F1, GP-08C, Ferrari 125F1, #42 Raymond Sommer, 4th
    1950-05-21: Monaco F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #28 Peter Whitehead, DNS engine
    1950-05-21: Monaco F1, C-01, Ferrari 125F1, #40 Alberto Ascari, 2nd
    1950-05-21: Monaco F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, #38 Luigi Villoresi, transmission
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #16 Juan Manuel Fangio, overheating
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, GP-04C, Ferrari 166F2, #10 Giovanni Bracco, DNS engine
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #12 Mario Tadini, 4th
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, GP-12C, Ferrari 166F2, #6 Dorino Serafini, 3rd
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, C-01, Ferrari 166F2/50, #4 Alberto Ascari, 2nd
    1950-05-28: Monza F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2, #8 Luigi Villoresi, 1st
    1950-05-28: Aix-les-Bains F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2, #16 Raymond Sommer, 1st
    1950-05-28: Aix-les-Bains F2, GP-10C, Ferrari 166F2, #18 Roberto Vallone, ignition
    1950-06-04: Berne F2, GP-04C, Ferrari 166F2, #18 Giovanni Bracco, engine
    1950-06-04: Berne F2, GP-12C, Ferrari 166F2, #22 Roberto Vallone, engine
    1950-06-04: Berne F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2/50, #20 Raymond Sommer, 1st
    1950-06-04: Berne F1, C-01, Ferrari 125F1, #18 Alberto Ascari, oil line
    1950-06-04: Berne F1, C-04, Ferrari 125F1, #22 Luigi Villoresi, transmission
    1950-06-04: Berne F1, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #20 Raymond Sommer, suspension
    1950-06-11: Remparts F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #12 Froilan Gonzalez, 3rd
    1950-06-11: Remparts F2, GP-08C, Ferrari 166F2, #16 Raymond Sommer, 5th
    1950-06-11: Remparts F2, GP-12C, Ferrari 166F2, #18 Dorino Serafini, gearbox
    1950-06-11: Rome F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, Franco Cortese, retired
    1950-06-11: Rome F2, GP-10C, Ferrari 166F2, Roberto Vallone, 3rd
    1950-06-11: Rome F2, C-02, Ferrari 166F2, Luigi Villoresi, 2nd
    1950-06-11: Rome F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-06-18: Spa F1, C-01, Ferrari 275F1, #4 Alberto Ascari, 5th
    1950-06-18: Spa F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, #2 Luigi Villoresi, 6th
    1950-07-02: Reims F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #32 Roberto Mieres, DNS withdrawn
    1950-07-02: Reims F2, GP-02C, Ferrari 166F2, #32 Froilan Gonzalez, engine
    1950-07-02: Reims F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #28 Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-07-02: Reims F2, GP2-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #26 Luigi Villoresi, suspension
    1950-07-02: Reims F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #14 Peter Whitehead, 3rd
    1950-07-02: Reims F1, C-01, Ferrari 275F1, #10 Alberto Ascari, DNS withdrawn
    1950-07-02: Reims F1, C-01, Ferrari 275F1, #10 Luigi Villoresi, DNS withdrawn
    1950-07-09: Bari F1, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #24 Franco Cortese, 5th
    1950-07-09: Bari F1, GP-12C, Ferrari 125F1, #38 Dorino Serafini, 7th
    1950-07-09: Bari F1, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #12 Alberto Ascari, transmission
    1950-07-09: Bari F1, GP2-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #30 Luigi Villoresi/Alberto Ascari, transmission
    1950-07-13: Jersey F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #10 Peter Whitehead, 1st
    1950-07-16: Albi F1, C-01, Ferrari 275F1, #16 Luigi Villoresi, ignition
    1950-07-16: Albi F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, #18 Alberto Ascari, retired
    1950-07-23: Naples F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #34 Franco Cortese, 1st
    1950-07-23: Zandvoort F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #10 Peter Whitehead, 4th
    1950-07-23: Zandvoort F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, #6 Luigi Villoresi, 2nd
    1950-07-23: Zandvoort F1, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #8 Alberto Ascari, 3rd
    1950-07-30: Geneva F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #50 Mario Tadini, engine
    1950-07-30: Geneva F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #42 Luigi Villoresi, transmission
    1950-07-30: Geneva F2, GP2-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #40 Dorino Serafini, 3rd
    1950-07-30: Geneva F1, C-01, Ferrari 275F1, #42 Luigi Villoresi, accident
    1950-07-30: Geneva F1, C-04, Ferrari 340F1, #40 Alberto Ascari, engine
    1950-08-12: Dundrod F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #14 Peter Whitehead, 1st
    1950-08-20: Nürburgring F2, GP-04C, Ferrari 166F2, #8 Giovanni Bracco, retired
    1950-08-20: Nürburgring F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #2 Alberto Ascari, 1st
    1950-08-20: Nürburgring F2, GP2-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, #4 Dorino Serafini, gearbox
    1950-08-26: Silverstone F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #17 Peter Whitehead, 3rd
    1950-08-26: Silverstone F1, C-02, Ferrari 125F1, #16 Alberto Ascari, DNS accident
    1950-09-03: Monza F1, GP-10C, Ferrari 125F1, #8 Peter Whitehead, 7th
    1950-09-03: Monza F1, GP1-49, Ferrari 375F1, #16 Alberto Ascari, engine
    1950-09-03: Monza F1, GP2-49, Ferrari 375F1, #48 Dorino Serafini/Alberto Ascari, 2nd
    1950-09-10: Mettet F2, GP-06C, Ferrari 166F2, #2 Franco Cortese, 6th
    1950-09-10: Mettet F2, GP1-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, Alberto Ascari, transmission
    1950-09-10: Mettet F2, GP2-49, Ferrari 166F2/50, Dorino Serafini, transmission
     
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    #11 250GTTDFZagatoCoupe, Jan 22, 2013
    Good God this is amazing! Thank You Boudewijn!
     
  12. Sire Bruno de Losckley

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    #12 Sire Bruno de Losckley, Jan 23, 2013
    thank Boudewijn, you for this list, I'll compared with mine.
     
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    #13 NürScud, Jan 25, 2013
    Oh God.. Amazing.!
     
  14. m.h.

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    #14 m.h., Jan 26, 2013
    Hello Boudewijn,

    to complete your list: For the first three races of Peter Whitehead in South America (8th/15th/22th January) I have him as 10th in Buenos Aires (1 lap behind), as a DNA in Mar del Plata and - I have to admit - also as a "?" for Ropsario...

    Regrads, Michael
     

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