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Mondial Power Steering Sucess Story

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  1. miketarrant

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    #1 miketarrant, Jan 15, 2012
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    INSTALLING EZ POWER STEERING IN A RHD FERRARI MONDIAL

    In the eighteen years I’ve owned the Mondial QV, I’ve added a few tweaks to make it a more enjoyable drive. These include replacing the Metric rims and awful TRX tires, with 17in alloys and 45% rubber, my previously posted relay fix for the slow windows, wider opening door stays, and now the piece de resistance, power steering.

    The Mondial steering has always been very heavy, with manoeuvring into my garage a chore that usually requires a half hour rest period, and even tight twisty roads can only be taken in short bursts. I have over the years toyed with the idea of installing a power rack from a Mondial T but even assuming that this was possible, (the rack mounts are slightly different), the engineering to fit an extra belt, hydraulic pump and pipework has always put me off.

    I was therefore more than a little pleased to discover a company in Holland that specialises in after market electric power steering systems for a wide range of classic cars, the Ferrari 308 and Mondial included.

    Electric power steering uses a computer-controlled electric motor to provide additional torque directly to the steering column and uses the existing rack and requires no hydraulics. It is fast becoming the norm for high volume production vehicles, especially those from Japan and Korea. These systems are also speed sensitive, taking a signal for the computer from the speedometer.

    After corresponding with EZ Engineering in Holland, reading several testimonials, and studying the Mondial Power Steering installation manual, I went ahead and ordered one. There was a slight element of uncertainty in that EZ Engineering had never made a Right Hand Drive unit before (I live in New Zealand). They therefore offered a full refund if I was unable to make the unit fit in my car.

    The unit arrived by courier in a matter of days and is basically a fully assembled replacement module for the upper half of the standard Mondial steering column.

    The photos show the Power unit and the Mondial column section it replaces.

    (Photo 1
    (Photo 2)

    Step one was to remove the steering wheel. Here was the first obstacle. The steering wheel is held on a keyway by a special round nut with 4 notches rather than a conventional hex nut. This required the manufacture of a custom socket from a piece of old water pipe. Crude, but effective.

    (Photo3)

    A gear puller was also needed to unseat the wheel.

    At this point the instruction manual says to remove the pin from the upper column universal joint.

    (Photo4)

    This proved a major challenge as this pin (Yellow in the above photo) is tapered and won’t give way easily. In hindsight it would have been easier to remove the column at the lower universal spline (shown below), as this just requires spreading the universal with a large screwdriver. I had to do this later in the installation anyway (A paint mark on the spline and universal allows it to be re-assembled in the same position).

    (Photo5)

    With the pin removed (finally) , The old column was removed by unplugging the four wiring connectors, and removing the height adjusting bolt and two pivot bolts at the rear of the first section of the column. The entire column can now be removed to the workbench.

    (Photo6)

    It was now a matter of transferring the wiring and stalk assembly to the new unit. This involved removing the pins from all the connectors (Mark and photograph first so they can be put back in the same socket positions) The pins come out quite easily using a small jewellers screwdriver. The stalk mounting studs must also be removed and refitted to the new power column.

    Removing the steering lock requires removing the anti-theft bolt with a small centre punch, then the lock barrel and ignition wiring can be eased from the housing.

    Assembly of the stalk and wiring onto the power unit was straightforward. However I do think they should have supplied a new ignition lock bolt, as these are not easy to come by away over in New Zealand.

    Although not stated in the manufactures instructions, it is best to fettle the lower plastic column cover while the unit is still on the bench. The cover requires a half circle cut-out to clear the motor unit and the ribs at the rear removed to clear the computer unit and wiring.

    (Photo7)

    The next step was mounting the new power column onto the car.

    The old column mount brackets are replaced by the new ones supplied and the new column loosely attached to the new brackets by the two rear hex socket screws, also supplied.

    This was where the switch from LHD to RHD caused a problem. Because the height adjustment lever on RHD cars is on the left of the column, as it is on LHD cars, the lever cannot be inserted past the motor unit, which is now also on the left. This would not be an issue on LHD cars. I solved this by unscrewing the lever arm and removing the small pin from the adjusting bolt. This meant that the bare bolt could be pushed in place in front of the motor unit. Re-attaching the adjustment lever was tricky but doable by rotating the far end of the bolt with needle nose pliers.

    To re-attach the lower column, I found it necessary to adjust the length slightly using the telescopic outer tube. I then knocked the tapered pin back into the upper universal and tightened all mounting bolts.

    Again it was straightforward to reconnect the wiring, attach the motor ground wire to a column mount bolt, thread the power wire alongside existing wiring to the main battery terminal, and the speed sense wire to the back of the speedometer.

    Finally, a tidy up with cable ties to hold the wiring clear of the column and refit the steering wheel.

    (Photo8)

    Final finished job.

    (Photo9)

    After all this effort, the moment of truth. Does it work.

    First I tried to turn the steering wheel with no ignition on. As usual, it was a two-arm wrestle. Now, turn the key. The difference is staggering. A one hand light touch is all that is need for lock to lock. What’s more, absolute silence. Now for a road test.

    First reversing out of my garage and negotiating the tight turns in my drive was a breeze. No hint of the two-arm struggle that usually made me take my other car instead. Out on the road the steering is firm at speed with lots of feel and just the right amount of assistance in slow speed corners and parking. The only slight effect is a reduction in self-centering, probably caused by the additional drag introduced by the motor. It is very slight so I’m sure I’ll soon get used to it.

    Overall a resounding success.
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  2. NoahCPA

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    pretty sweet.
     
  3. jeffQV

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    Hey Mike where are you in NZ?
     
  4. sjmst

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    Holy SHEit!

    I love Mondial 3.2's. My only gripe was I wished for Power Steering. So, now when I get a Mondial again, I'll keep this in mind.

    You have a website?
     
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    Yes, thanks, I found just found it too! I have an 81 FIAT Spider and I am looking to get this.
     
  7. miketarrant

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    Hi Jeff,

    I am in Lower Hutt. Am in the Wellington Phone book. Are you a member of FOCNZ?
     
  8. moysiuan

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    That's a great solution, thanks! I have heard some conversions for Daytona's in the UK, I wonder if this is their solution?
     
  9. hrlevy

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    can you still adjust the streering column in and out / up and down, for driver access?
     
  10. afterburner

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    Really nice! Thanks for posting.
     
  11. miketarrant

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    Forgot to mention. You can still adjust the steering up and down but you lose the in and out adjustment. EZ will make the PS column to your preferred length.
     
  12. sjmst

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    I wrote to the UK website and have yet to get a response.
     
  13. Sabby

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    I emailed them about a month ago too. No respose either....
     
  14. jgoodman

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    This is really cool. Can you make a video of the system in action please? Like a one finger turn of the wheel at rest?
     
  15. Dizengoff

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    After driving my Mondial 3.2 for about two weeks, I must say I don't understand the fuss over the lack of power steering.

    Given all the comments I've read I was expecting the car to be a real struggle to drive...maybe I should invest in a giant truck-style steering steering wheel with one of those door knob things on it to help me turn?

    I have been surprised to learn that its no different than my 911 SC. If you want to add power steering, that's great. I just don't understand the complaints.

    Maybe I'm weird, who knows.
     
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    #16 Valenzo, Apr 12, 2012
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    You tell 'em Dizen
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  17. dailyferraridriver

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    No, you're normal. It's not hard at all - in fact I shrunk my wheel by going MOMO - similar to 308/328 because I didn't like the look of the oem 3.2 wheel. Made it a bit harder to turn, but only at low speeds. On the road, she's very easy to turn/steer - don't see the issue and love the feeling.

    Erik
     
  18. Dizengoff

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    Jeez, I don't think my forearms look like that :D.

    I've got a 13 inch vintage Momo Cavellino and it seems fine. Thought about switching to a Prototipo but felt guilty once I saw the connection between the Cavellino and the F-car.

    I know there are a few guys who added the electric PS to their older 911's, too.
     
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    #19 Wade, Apr 12, 2012
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    Actually, on the Mondial 8 and QV if you're still using TRXs the power steering can come in handy considering the 240s up front. Even their larger Nardi 390mm steering wheels don't help much at low speeds (e.g. tight parking areas).

    Data chart as per the respective owners manuals
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    My fuss is several fold about the steering. First, when I turn into my driveway from a common direction, it's slightly uphill and from a dead stop. I cannot see the opposing traffic well until I'm just at the top of the hill, practically past my driveway, and turning a quick left from a dead stop is not ideal in my Mondial. Second is what I use the car for...drives to work and to stores that I frequent. Those two activities share something in common....parking lots. I am extra cautious in parking lots, esp after Joe Z's story with his beloved Mondial, and yet I go all the time to Home Depot, Starbucks, Costco, etc in my Mondial. As a result of being cautious, the car is at a standstill turning down parking rows, which only amplifies the annoying challenge at a standstill, especially with my favorite Starbucks venti half-caf in one hand. You know, no cupholders fellas.

    Totally agree about at just about any other speed. Perfect. :)
     
  21. afterburner

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    The actual measured tread width in mm on the ground of my TRX 240s corresponded exactly to the measured tread width of my current 225 16" Toyo tires.
     
  22. soucorp

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    #22 soucorp, Apr 13, 2012
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    Here is my power steering, I still love it since my upgrade last year!
    390 mm Nardi classic wood with Big horn Ferrari chrome button.
    Turns effortlessly for me! :):):)
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  23. alfadoc156

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    i have a ferrari 308gtbi and hav experienced all the gripes u very well mentioned above mainly power steering. I also noticed that you found a solution for the doors as in wider opening so my question is from where did you source the parts.
    any thoughts on heavy clutch pedal?
     
  24. miketarrant

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    I removed the steel bars that control the amount the door opens and just made slightly longer ones from 4mm stainless steel. Don't make them too long as the wide door opening will catch the front guard.
     
  25. Alden

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    #25 Alden, Apr 14, 2017
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    IIRC, Ferrari actually re-engineered the geometry of the clutch mechanism in the later 308's (328 is hydraulic? not sure)so that it wouldn't be so heavy. (Women couldn't/wouldn't drive the car) You may be able to retrofit the later parts to make your clutch effort lighter, not sure.
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