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f40 vs enzo - collectibility

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari/F80' started by freestone, Jun 25, 2011.

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  1. freestone

    freestone Formula Junior

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    What do you think is the more "collectible" supercar - the f40 or enzo? In terms of future appreciation?

    The f40 is certainly iconic, and the last supercar produced before Mr. Ferrari died.

    The Enzo of course is a wonderful car.

    But if you wanted to have one for the next 25 years, which will prove to be the better investment?

    (I have other cars I drive quite regularly, but the f40/Enzo are much less practical and hence almost need to be viewed as collectibles at least for my use)
     
  2. PauloSF

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    I think the F40 would be the better investment, in my point of view at least. It was the last Ferrari halo car that was built like a go kart. Don't get me wrong, I think technology has proven what its worth in these cars, but from what I keep hearing, there's absolutely nothing out there right now that compares to the feel you get driving an F40. It's just pure driving nirvana.

    In terms of money, the Enzo would maybe be worth more at the end of those 25 years, but I believe the F40 would undoubtedly be the one that would catch more attention.
     
  3. Ferrari 360 CS

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    Well I look at this differently, the one thats most collectible is the one that gives its owner the most joy, why look 25 years in the future, if you have one of these iconic cars enjoy it now, one never knows what tomorrow may hold.

    Either car is collectible to different generations, those that grew up in the 80s would want the F40 and those the have been into cars in recent years may find the Enzo more collectible.
     
  4. Senna1994

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    +1 Great Post.
     
  5. joe sackey

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    I think any the Supercar series is eminently collectible, and its impossible to tell which will be the better investment (if you can use such a word with these cars). So it really doesn't matter, but what you like NOW and I believe they will all appreciate similarly over the years, with some being ahead of others at different points in time as interest for them peaks or wanes.
     
  6. George330

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    I think the Enzo will be more collectible although I personally rate the F40 higher

    The reason is that 25 years from now, most of the people wealthy enough to own such a car, will have grown up with paddleshift supercars. Therefore they will find it difficult to appreciate a hardcore manual car like the F40

    So I think the Enzo will enjoy broader appeal, also helped by the fact that it is rarer

    One thing is certain: if I'm still alive, I will be 67 and -God willing- i will still own my 288...Even if no one wants it by then!
     
  7. geno berns

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    I think in 25 years the value of an F40 will be in line with an Enzo or about $750K to $1M (Adjust for inflation), depending on quality. Therefore the F40 is a better buy these days even though they are going through the roof at this time with some examples already reaching the three quarter of a million mark...

    Geno
     
  8. werewolf

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    please have no worries ... i know somebody who will want your 288 ;) :)
     
  9. Bill S

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    For Ferrari supercars, I would guess in this order based on production numbers:

    288
    F50
    Enzo
    F40

    The F40 is 20+ years old and is selling for about 1.2 MSRP. They made a lot of F40s. The Enzo and F50 are 2X MSRP. The 288 is 7X MSRP, although it was low when it came out.
     
  10. Craigy

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    While one could argue that the 40 is more "iconic," "pure," etc., there were still more than twice as many F40's produced even after you round up to include all the extra Enzos, MC12's, and FXX's that Ferrari pumped out.

    There's a limited population of folks that want these cars, and a drastically smaller number among those who actually have the money to buy them. A thousand three hundred and eleven is a huge number compared to five or six hundred.
     
  11. texasmr2

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    For myself it is and will always be the F40 over the F50 and tied neck and neck with the F40 would be the 288 GTO.
     
  12. REALZEUS

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    I reckon that the Enzo will be much more valuable, as it is a technical tour de force and its production was less than half of that of the F40. Enzos change hands for three times the money of the F40 nowadays.
     
  13. benny355

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  14. skydancer

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    Don't worry George...send me a message when you want to get rid of your 288!! :)
     
  15. stradman

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    Although I see your argument George, the fact is that collectors are a funny breed as you know. If driving easily without any problems was the main criteria, a lot of recalcitrant 50's and 60's high end cars wouldn't be as desirable as they are now. In fact I know one of the main reasons many collectors seek and buy these cars is exactly because they are a challenge. I let a friend of mine who collects 50's race cars drive my F40 yesterday( he hadn't driven one before, and you know who I mean as you met him.) and he loved it! Even though he is an experienced driver, he didn't quite master driving the F40 in the hour that he drove it, and that's exactly why he loved it! I suppose its like the girl who plays hard to get. The more you want her! The Enzo you can master much more easily than the F40 and comparatively therefore loses some of the appeal...
     
  16. GTE

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    anything over 10 examples produced, you buy, not collect.
     
  17. Mr. Francesco

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    Good question. Only time will tell :)
     
  18. ross

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    the question probably needs to be parsed a bit.

    which car will appreciate more, is likely to be the f40 since it is starting from a lower price point, but has tremendous charisma and a following. numbers made is always a good basis for collectability and 1311 examples is a lot of cars compared to any of the other supercars from ferrari, BUT one has only to look at the gullwing to see that this may not matter if the car remains as iconic as it is today.

    the enzo will always be a star car, and will always remain very high priced. BUT the problem it will have is that the very next ferrari 'f70' will eclipse it again, and then it will have to rely on its looks and charm to raise the value bar - and it may not be able to rise much further than where it already is (in % terms).

    so for purely investment terms, if you have what it takes to buy an enzo today then buy it. but if you only have half of what it takes, then buy an f40, and you may end up making more money down the road - that is of course if you ever realize the equity by selling it, and it is doubtful that you would want to part with it...... :)
     
  19. texasmr2

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    Although I own neither example I hope my input/opinion will have alittle relevance and I speak only for myself but I think others may agree.

    Collectibility to me mean's a car that stirs something deep within my soul and something I must have and resale value does not nor will it ever weigh upon my decision of which one to buy. If I ever own any Ferrari I will own it until the lord calls my name and out of the two choices it will always be the F40. The Enzo albeit fantastic does not elude the charm, nostalgia and raw driving experience that the F40 does (strictly my opinion of course). Don't get me wrong I love both cars just one more than the other for personal reasons.
     
  20. werewolf

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    dear god i love this post :)
     
  21. joe sackey

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    If Iconic = Collectible, then consider that of all the Ferrari Supercars the F40 is the most iconic by a country mile..
     
  22. texasmr2

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    And with that reasoning (I know your not supposed to start a sentence with 'and') the 288 GTO would be tied atleast for me. Having these two iconic Ferrari's being apart of my past I cannot help but let them share the top rung on my ladder.
     
  23. ILuv4Res

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    Two words = "Challenge Stradale"......
     
  24. ross

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    i kind of agree with you on that....
     
  25. stradman

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    Agree with who?
     

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