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  1. wax

    wax Five Time F1 World Champ
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    27/05/2010 - mentioned at le bottom.

    http://www.valeursactuelles.com/dossier-d039actualit%C3%A9/dossier-d039actualit%C3%A9/drogue-guerre-secr%C3%A8te20100527.html

    Google translation . . .
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    Security. When police scores
    Drugs, the secret war

    Gang leaders arrested. International networks dismantled. Millions of euros seized. Buildings, villas and luxury sedans confiscated. The GP now attacking the heritage of thugs. With spectacular results. Survey.

    Two billion euros turnover in France. More than 300 billion euros over the entire planet. Two scary numbers. Showing that the drug market, where it is flourishing. A hydra fertile cause much damage. Could it be that in terms of public health. Yes, a hydra that enriches the rich mafia groups and their wholesalers. Does anyone know a wholesaler who delivers his goods to win several cities between 250,000 and 550,000 euros per year? And these organizations are desperate to sell their goods. Including to resort to assassinations of "competitors" and abductions in case of "trade dispute" between two rival gangs. This phenomenon continues to grow on the Costa del Sol in Spain and even in some French cities.

    Faced with this organized crime, other structures are awake. Such is perfectly legal. They name the police, gendarmerie, customs, taxes. Their mission is clear: dismantle the drug networks.

    The successes are by appointment. It's not Francis Thierry, the new head of the Central Office for the Suppression of Illicit Traffic in Narcotic Drugs (OCRTIS) who say otherwise. Head of Operational Section for six years, he knows the house well. "Sure," said the Commissioner, our successes are the qualities and skills of our staff. But we must recognize that the law Perben II, passed in 2004, has been a godsend. Thanks to its provisions on infiltration, installation of microphones, the payment of informers, it constitutes the key to our very good results. And Francis Thierry continued: "Today, we are more focused on the identification of networks and the dismantling of networks on the quantity of drugs seized. "

    Although one does not preclude the other. In late December 2009, thanks to excellent cooperation with the Spaniards - the same as that which exists on terrorism - the detectives OCRTIS have seized two tons of marijuana stored in Barcelona. Value: 3.5 million euros. The goods came from Morocco and was intended to power a few cities in the Val-de-Marne and Seine-Saint-Denis. Five weeks later, the police OCRTIS pick in Champigny-sur-Marne, the ring leader, a certain Nabil, owner, with some associates, pizzerias Epinay-sur-Seine ... And incidentally specialist in Greco-Roman fight. Heavyweight ... There are other success stories, for example, 7 tons of cannabis seized in late January, Gonesse (Vald'Oise) worth 35 million euros. The goods were in a truck of fruit and vegetables for the market of Rungis! Again the operation conducted in late March in an apartment in a city of Tremblay-en-France, where was discovered - and before - nearly one million euros in cash. A record for drug trafficking. On this occasion, the men of the PJ Seine-Saint-Denis have got hold of two kilos of cocaine, ecstasy tablets and cannabis. And one could multiply the examples ... A number alone is significant: the first three months of 2010, 20 tons of cannabis were seized by the PJ. However, 20 tonnes is the amount asked for the full year 2009!

    "No question our guard down," insists the director of central criminal police, Christian Lothion. Having held leadership positions in many departments of the GP of France and Navarre (Marseille and Lyon, among others), crowned with great successes - such as recovery of master paintings stolen from Nice museum a few years ago, the great cop, a nice touch, square and direct, knows the intricacies of organized crime and methods of drug lords. He continued: "We will win the war against the traffickers. We knock portfolio. We systematically seize their assets, bank accounts, their sumptuous sedans they love. Money is the sinews of war. Penniless and in prison, traffickers are nothing. "

    Decided in 2002 by the Interior Minister at the time, Nicolas Sarkozy, the strategy focuses on the systematic research and the stripping of assets of the offender has intensified over the month. Brice Hortefeux confirms: "The traffickers who strut around in fancy cars and vacations available billionaires without ever being beholden to a single euro of taxes, is over. "

    If it is not new, this approach has become routine. Explanation: There are twenty years while investigating judge who came from 'make' a big drug case sought a civil court order that freezes the assets of the offender or to take a mortgage on any property Estate. A sensible decision. Except that mortgages are temporary court, they must be renewed or they could become obsolete. But often, judges neglected to renew them ... To the delight of the trader, who once found freedom, was recovering well. To prevent the crime does not outweigh the virtue, a bill tabled by the President of the Law Committee of the National Assembly, Jean-Luc Warsmann (UMP), has found a solution: the creation of a agency to manage the property confiscated proceeds of organized crime, including drug trafficking.

    This organization, called Management Agency and recovery assets seized and forfeited (Agrasc) should officially born on June 22 day final adoption by the National Assembly. Make no mistake: police and judges do not wait for this agency to seize the proceeds from the sale of narcotics (see, in current values, our article on Stephen Apaire). The former dictator of Panama, Manuel Noriega, who has been extradited from U.S. to France after a procedure almost twenty years, convicted in absentia for drug trafficking, knows a thing from the beginning the opening of the judicial inquiry in the late 1980s, the Paris judge froze bank accounts of eight Noriega: the ICC Paris, the Banco do Brasil Paris, BNP Paris, and CL Marseille). Amount of Deposit: 13 million francs. Two years later, the French court were to auction an apartment of 800 square meters located in a suburb of the capital to 10 million francs. During the month of June 2005, six Britons of Pakistani origin, alpagués in the port of Saint-Mandrier (Var) to be transported via the Living Dream, a boat 15 meters from the British Virgin Islands, over 60 kilos heroin from Latin America, found themselves totally ruined, the two London apartments (worth 2million euros) they were confiscated. A few months later, the Criminal Court of Marseille was sentenced to prison terms ranging from five to ten years.

    Now is the rule: even before the traffickers do not fall into the nets of the police, their heritage is scrutinized. Then, in the wake, confiscated. A novel whose authorship is up to Nicolas Sarkozy when he had the idea still in 2002 to create regional task forces, the famous Gir. From a simple idea, but little in court in the civil service: maximize the efficiency of government services by working together PJ, gendarmerie, customs, taxes. Initially, a few ironic smiles manifested themselves here and there. And then, over time, a cultural revolution took place. The Gir (21 are directed by police, 14 by police) have acquired their credentials. With 430 people across the country, mainly experienced staff, as coordinator of the Gir are the Commissioner Philippe Lucas. For 2009 alone, the Gir and regional services, led a thousand transactions across all sectors of the economy underground (prostitution in clandestine work through drug trafficking and fraud in social benefits) made 4800 arrests that led to the incarceration of 1,017 people. A rate of 21% compared to arrests. A rate much higher than the percentage of other services, with pride loose Commissioner Philippe. Which states: "In 2009, we tracked down in the cities about 158 kilos of heroin and proceeded to confiscate 42 million of criminal assets. A jump of 60% compared to 2008. "Hence it is no coincidence that with such a tally, the interior minister, Brice Hortefeux, intended that the Gir intensify their activities in sensitive areas.

    The pursuit of money laundering and suspicious transactions

    In addition to the Gir, drug traffickers have everything to fear from the Central Office for the prosecution of serious financial crime (OCRGDF). A prestigious service created twenty years ago. Conducted by the Divisional Commissioner Christopher Perez-Baquey, a connoisseur of crime by organized gangs, the Office aims to track the money-laundering and suspicious financial transactions carried out among others by drug traffickers. Very often with success. The Board, in fact, no end to flush out all-out investment which engage the thugs with their illegal trade. This, for example, the purchase of luxury apartments little (voluntarily, not to attract attention), located not far from the cities where they work ... or do other work! Classical: these apartments are acquired through ICS in order to conceal the true identity of the buyers. As often as is the case of sellers of cannabis originating in Morocco, they also buy, always with the proceeds of their "work" lands on which they built beautiful villas. This is a time to retire, they expect to spend their last days with family. Unfortunately for them, they are sometimes prevented by the raids of the police. Of course, men of Commissioner Perez-Baquey in their hunt for dubious investments made through the drug money, confiscating large sums. Not long ago, in connection with the discovery of trafficking in Sevran (Seine-Saint-Denis), they discovered that a family had invested in real estate one million euros. Until recently in Bobigny (Seine-Saint-Denis), the Board found that 2 million euros - drug proceeds - had been invested in real estate in Algeria. Sometimes the drug money is recycled to buy some beautiful villas in Marbella (Spain).

    Unquestionably, the past eight years, thanks, we have seen, a stronger legal arsenal, France scores in the war that opposes the drug mafias. Seizures, arrests and dismantling of networks are legion, since three or four years. In France, of course, but also abroad, particularly in sensitive countries where French officials watch and identify criminal organizations.

    Two frigates in Fort-de-France for the Navy

    These handpicked men, "eyes and ears" of the Central Office of the Narcotics Commissioner Francois Thierry, we find in Caracas, Bogota, Brazil and also in Algeria, Morocco and Spain. This is not all France, in association with other states, is closely monitoring via its Navy, the Caribbean Sea, where the drug is walking if one may say before reaching the Europe or Africa. To this end, recently, Fort-de-France, two Navy frigates, and Germinal Ventôse, watching the traditional route of cocaine, one that leaves the British to go on the side of the West African such as Mali and Senegal. Although it happens that cocaine is transported from Venezuela to reach southern Spain. On these routes, OCRTIS day too. On the lookout. With police ready to intercept the boats even if they are not in French territorial waters. A right which is offered by the Vienna Convention of 1988. Obviously, the men of the Central Office of Narcotics do not hesitate to do.

    Since some time ago when they stopped at sea carrying a team of coke from Venezuela to Spain. Taught by the game of territorial jurisdiction by a court in Rennes, this case showed that "work" of the mafia had reported big twelve luxury cars including a Mercedes, almost a formula, valued at 800,000 euros, four villas in Marbella, a hairdresser. And many apartments in Caracas ... The sedan is definitely a craze among traffickers. During April, a drug baron, Alexander Surin, was arrested in France. In his possession, a staggering collection: two Bugatti Veyron worth 1.3 million euros each, two Ferrari Enzo: 460 000 euros each, and a Rolls-Royce: 370,000 euros etc.. A total capital of 4.5 million euros ... Gilles Gaetner
     
  2. 192sm02

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    V.intersting to know connection between mike boparan and surin chap? Same person or fake in order to get credit / hide?

    Time will tell
     
  3. robert_c

    robert_c F1 Rookie

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    First post after joining two years ago? Welcome to Fchat.
     
  4. 400SPYDER

    400SPYDER F1 Rookie

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    Boporan linked to some very 'serious' criminals here - acid in the face and attempted murder for a few thousand pounds !!

    Given the triple drug related murder, reported elsewhere on the Essexboys site - people might want to reconsider their thoughts.

    http://bernardomahoney.com/rrmurders/articles/2007/bseatfo.shtml


    02/04/98 - Bank scam ended as thieves fell out
    Southend Echo

    IT STARTED as a get-rich-quick scam - it ended with a garrulous, handsome young man grotesquely disfigured, partially blinded and with the attack ringleader jailed for 16 years.

    What happened in between was the stuff of gangster movies: a £200,000 bank swindle, a bitter feud among friends, underworld codes of silence, a sinister character dubbed Mr X and, to cap it all, a gunman dressed as a clown. The issues were complicated but the motive was simple: greed. In 1994, Darren Kerr was approached by London fraudster Michael Boporan.

    Would he be interested in joining a bank scam set to rake in millions? Kerr contacted Russell Jones. Could he set it up for a cut? Jones paid friends at a Southend bank to copy blueprints of credit cards. Jones would pass them to Kerr, Kerr would sell them to Boporan who would use them to make bogus credit cards. In return, Kerr was paid a percentage of the credit value of the cards - as much as £100,000 - and would pass on a cut to Jones.

    It was simple, ingenious even, but the whole operation relied on trust - a rare commodity. A police raid in May 1994 sunk the scam before Jones had made any money. Kerr claimed he had not made any money either.In fact, Kerr had done very well. It had helped Finance his new Range Rover and a £2,500 stereo. Jones was arrested in February 1995 and held in custody at Brixton prison for the scam.

    There fate played a hand. He met ringleader Michael Boporan, who revealed he had paid Kerr £6,000 for the job. Months earlier Jones had read in the Evening Echo the bank had lost £200,000. During the trial he said: "I could not work it out at first. As far as I was concerned, neither of us had made any money. I was very upset about it," Jones wanted his cut but Kerr stood firm: Jones was a double dealing cheat who had tried to cut him out of the operation.

    Kerr said: "I owed him about £3,000 to £4,000. But I didn't feel I really owed him the money. "Russell had phoned people up behind my back and tried to offer them print sheets, cutting out the middle man." On August 31, 1995, Kerr was on his way to London when he decided to make a call from a telephone box near the Circus Tavern, Purfleet.

    Jones and Thomas Watkins, tailing in their gold Ford Escort, jumped him. Jones doused him with acid and bundled him into his own Mercedes. They even drove him around to make sure the acid did maximum, damage. As he recovered in St Andrew's Hospital, Billericay, Kerr, 28, was shot by a gunman dressed as a clown.

    No one has ever been charged with the attempted murder and detectives today said they would continue to investigate the case. During the trial, Jones claimed a sinister gangland figure dubbed Mr X was behind the acid attack. He said the mystery man had lent him £5,000 to pay off bank workers for the prints. When the scam collapsed Mr X went after Kerr to settle the debt.

    Andrew Trollope "QC, defending, claimed Kerr had framed Jones out of revenge for grassing him to Mr X. & Linda Stern QC, prosecuting, said: "There never was a mystery man and there never was a debt. Darren Kerr had put one on you. You were worried about looking like a patsy, someone anybody could rip off."

    On January 31, 1996, Jones was jailed for four years for his part in the Boporan fraud and for possessing a firearm. He had pleaded not guilty.
     
  5. CliffBeer

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    Wait, are you saying that Vanilla Ice was on this forum? And was recently busted for drug related crimes?

    That's a shame. The guy's a helluva dancer.
     
  6. speed racer

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  7. 192sm02

    192sm02 Rookie

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    Thanks, bit of a lurker. I'll post pics of my cars soon.
     
  8. 192sm02

    192sm02 Rookie

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    Presume no-one has heard anything of this?
     
  9. AJ

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    #309 AJ, Jun 30, 2010
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    I'm not sure if there's any truth to this, but I saw this post on PistonHeads which suggests that the case fell through and he walked away.
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  10. PAP 348

    PAP 348 Nine Time F1 World Champ
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    Lol, interesting. :D:D

    *Waits for Icemanbops to make a post here*
     
  11. 192sm02

    192sm02 Rookie

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    Thanks, perhaps crime does pay! Clearly bloody clever indeed!
     
  12. 134282

    134282 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    This was reposted a healthy number of times when the news first hit four months ago. But nothing else has come of it since the initial accusations. We're all still waiting for a follow-up article; a court hearing, an announcement of innocence, anything. But no one's heard anything.
     
  13. Webby

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  14. Buggin

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    #315 Buggin, Oct 15, 2010
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    Been reading through this thread, just because really, but I now have one or two things to add.

    1: Almost everyone here has a nicer car then me. Oh well. But I have acquired my cars through legal means, and support my car habit by having a normal job.
    Has that enabled me to afford a collection of exotics? No, it has not. Would I like to have some really nice cars? Sure, one or two special ones, nothing fancy. Would I be willing to break international law by involving myself with the drug game?

    Hell no. I may be a "normal" guy who drives a VW, but the feds are not breathing down my neck either.


    2: Some folks have stated "who cares how he made his money". What an odd question for this site. I figured that more people would be willing to distance themselves from someone who has been under the microscope for the type of things that have been mentioned.

    I dont care if you have a fleet of Bugattis, and a shop full of Enzos and Zondas. If you made the money for those things through illegal business transactions, I want nothing to do with you. I enjoy being far enough off the radar that I can break a few minor laws without drawing attention to myself, but furthering yourself by ruining others lives? Thats just wrong. Not just in the legal sense, that is wrong in every ethical sense imagined.

    For those who were "nut-swinging" on this guy because you got starry eyed at his list of cars, go ahead and keep it up. For those of us that want to maintain our personal integrity, we will just watch the drama unfold from a safe distance. If you care more about a person because of their belongings, then I hope you enjoy being a shallow creature with rather flexible morals.
     
  15. Bradley

    Bradley F1 Rookie

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    It doesn't matter how you make your money. It only matters if you're rich.

    There is no "Right" and "Wrong." If you have money, you're Right. End of story.

    Why do you hate America?
     
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  16. DennisForza

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    The sad thing is there are people on here that will not see your sarcasm and agree with your words.
     
  17. Buggin

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    #318 Buggin, Oct 15, 2010
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    Ah, so to forego ones humanity and allow their quest for material possessions to blur the line between moral and immoral, is favorable to retaining your individual mores and your own integrity?

    So much for not letting money change you.
    Or was that ingrained into the psyche at an early age?



    I dont hate America. I strongly dislike seeing people throw away their better judgement for little green pieces of paper that are not even worth the paper they are printed on.

    Would I like a garage full of exotics? Sure, would I be willing to set aside my morals and integrity to achieve that?

    No.

    If a man can not retain at least his integrity, then what use does he have as a man?
    If he has proven to be untrustworthy, and of no moral character, how can others stand to associate with him?

    Maybe the Marines did brainwash me, maybe that is why I still think that there are those who "Do not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do."

    What happened to honor? Integrity?
    Are they still alive, or coughing up blood in an alley somewhere?
     
  18. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    quoted for truth.

    I would rather be poor and moral than rich and immoral.
     
  19. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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    are you implying that a high proportion of members on here have funded their cars with money gained through illegal transactions?

    if so then that's simply false.
     
  20. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    That's not what he was saying at all. He was referring to the people defending Iceman.
     
  21. TexasMike

    TexasMike F1 World Champ

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    Your post doesn't really seem like sarcasm to me, but I hope it is.....
     
  22. Bradley

    Bradley F1 Rookie

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    It is.

    I thought the sarcasm would be obvious, but apparently it was not for a few people in this thread.
     
  23. Testacojones

    Testacojones F1 Veteran

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    I dont hate America. I strongly dislike seeing people throw away their better judgement for little green pieces of paper that are not even worth the paper they are printed on.

    Would I like a garage full of exotics? Sure, would I be willing to set aside my morals and integrity to achieve that?

    No.

    If a man can not retain at least his integrity, then what use does he have as a man?
    If he has proven to be untrustworthy, and of no moral character, how can others stand to associate with him?

    Maybe the Marines did brainwash me, maybe that is why I still think that there are those who "Do not lie, cheat, or steal, nor tolerate those who do."

    What happened to honor? Integrity?
    Are they still alive, or coughing up blood in an alley somewhere?[/


    Exactly why I didn't join any military or vote in any elections...
     

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