What constitutes an Exotic car?

Now I've never owned a Viper but I can hardly picture the girlfriend of a guy with a Murcielago in the shop telling her boyfriend "Hey, I want to go for a ride with the guy in the Viper".

Not even in the Viper owner's wildest dreams.

I said in a previous post that I loved Vipers but let's not get carried away here.

 

Confucius says "Lion with little pee pee must make loudest roar".

 

The problem with maintaining the position of the Viper as exotic is that, at least to most of us in the USA, it's a domestic car built by Dodge. That alone disqualifies the Viper as exotic even if it can outperform most exotic cars, is built like an exotic, etc.... The Viper is not an upper-crust toy of the super-elite. It is a supercar, but it's not elitist enough.

Alas, "exotic car" is subjective, with some cars being exotic right away, with some that can cross over. For example, a "supercar" is not necessarily "exotic." The 328, for example, a Ferrari, is immediately exotic because of it's exclusivity and price, not for it's performance. It is not a supercar. A Nissan Maxima can outperform a 328. So performance is not necessarily a criteria for exotic status. Exclusivity and brand identity will set the stage for an exotic car. This is what makes a 328 exotic.

What is exotic is a "chic factor" that another make simply doesn't have. For example, while Nissan's GT-R can outperform many supercars and most exotics, it is itself not really an exotic car because it's MSRP isn't high enough, and is made in too great of numbers even though for a production car is very limited.

Again, a ZR-1, supercar status as it clearly has, is not an exotic car. At least not here. Maybe in Japan it is considered exotic. It is however a supercar no matter where it is exported.

Rarer are the exotic supercars, such as the Enzo, Scuderia, Murcielago, Veyron, Zonda, McLaren F1, et al.

 

There are domestic exotics too to name a couple: Saleen S7, SSC Ultimate Aero, Mosler MT900<-- not sure if thats the right designation so sorry if I got that wrong.

As far as Immanuel rofl at the microfiber windbreaker. That guy on viperforums that dissed him made my day.

Japan only has 4 exotics so far as I'm concerened
Nismo Z-tune
Nismo 400r
Honda NSX R-GT
Nismo r390 <-- they should have made more of these

Heres the R390 for those who dont know what it is.
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My point is, who cares?

Get a life and go drive, race, cruise with the ladies, etc. Is there anyone arguing on here who actually owns a car from the exotic genre? My friend mentioned this thread and that I had to post this picture. Sometimes it is fun to put a firecracker in a bee hive and run away.

The Viper is for the real world and I am absolutly certain that owner knows EXACTLY who Enzo Ferrari is.

BTW, I doubt any women could care less about this question? Point made, go drive.

I guess that's why that in the Du Pont Registry magazine there are adds for nothing but exotic cars and "escort" services. Exotic car people are too busy being turned on by their cars to find a women on their own. Hopefully they have enough money after that major service or after their Testarossa drops the ring and pinion to go buy one.

Now, how fast was the 2009 Dodge Viper ACR around the Nurburgring?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zoxlpZjotMI

Firecracker deployed.

 

Well he sure knew, he was asian.

 

Yeah, maybe as much as you understand sarcasm, LOL.

 

oooof!

(I understand sarcasm, though.)

What is an exotic? How bout what's NOT? Can we set up a definition that if a car is NOT mass produced, available through lots of dealers, celebrity designed, inexpensive, or other badges of exotica, it is not exotic? but it might still be a sports car, muscle car, etc.

Example: my own ridiculous daily driver, which gets lots of "nice car!" and "wish I had one!" comments. I'm so thankful for it (especially when I had to borrow my parents' Accord for a week when one of my new B-stones sprung a leak at the bead and it took the replacement tire that long to arrive). There was a thread at an S2K board asking why there aren't more pix of S2000s at wreckedexotics. Answer from most: yeah, they get wrecked a lot, but S2000s aren't exotics, silly! Sports cars, for sure (2 seats, convertible or removable roof, under 3000 pounds) but with 65,000 sold at ordinary Honda dealers for about the same price as a top-of-the-line minivan, not exotic.

But you know what, I think a Corvette ZR1 is exotic. It's sold at ordinary Chevy dealers but it's something different enough from, and more expensive than, even the Z06 to be exotic.

Any F or L-car is by definition exotic.

 

65000 is exotic by honda standards.

I would consider an NSX an exotic. 8900 (US) over 14 years.

Top Gear boys should start an exotic wall. Sorta like a cool wall, instead they debate the legitimacy of a car being an exotic or not.

 

So it ok for other people on here to continue to stir the pot. Looks like Mj_duell and others on here need to stop. And I have alot of friends of the Viperforums and other big forums which I am greatly respect including this one. I meet up with them and we respect eachother, thats what suppose to happen in this hobby. I closed the thread down on Viperforums because of the stupidness starting to happen. But people on the Viperforum do side with me on how stupid some of Ferrarichat users look on how they think about other supercars. A 24 hour ban is not going to stop this or me, closing the thread will for other pot stirrers continue (people I am not going to name)...... This hole topic issue bothers me none because people on here like to look-over the truth but start-up bullcr*p. Adding ignorance to the topic, not helping others to understand because they don't or won't..........

 

Many people tend not to appreciate domestic things and praise almost everything foreign.

 

Won't be long now, tick tock. That temper of yours is going to get the best of you. Grow up junior.



--Mike

 

You see what I am saying........... Thank you for proving the point...

 

Man that didn't take long. I didn't even use good bait.

 

Dont take long for you either my friend

 

Touché&#8217;. Agreed, I see you have lightened up a bit. Good. Nice to have you back then. I am looking forward to some sensible dialog.

--Mike

 

Funny how every car guy I've met calls NSX a supercar, baby supercar or exotic while Ferrari guys and Lamborghini guys never do. Then again, on Fchat there are only four Ferrari supercars, the rest are just sportscars, it seems

The GTR has amazing performance but it's not an exotic whatsoever in my book. In other words, the performance alone can not define exotic, it's gotta be the whole package.

 

I always was lightened. And was talking sensible, it's the posers that keep chiming in like you.

 

HAHA!! Very true


Lets see!!!!!

Ferrari Supercar/Exotics
1. Ferrari FXX
2 Ferrari Enzo
3. Ferrari F40 and F50
4. Ferrari 288 GTO

Ferrari affordable sportscars
1. F360
2. F348/355
3. F3X8
I can name more but its just outside of the average affordable list. But they are still expensive F sportscars that have great performance characteristics. Still are touchable/passable by other performance beasts. Don't get me wrong, I love the cars on the affordable list. But it would suck badly to have a common stock 2.0liter turbo VW GTI given you hell when you are just trying to merge into traffic at 65mph. And there's no cars infront of you on the highway So just guess what's left is you have to hold on to, is acting like its the only exotic around in this world. And living by that name "exotic" by never driving it , keeping it super clean, and talking smack online............

I get it!!!!

 

Let's just stop this nonsense now.

Immanuel, Mj, miz, all the rest of you guys.

No more baiting, no more posturing, no ore crapping up this thread with a bunch of personal junk that is more suited to, well, a Viper forum or maybe a VeeDub site.

This is a Ferrari enthusiast site for adults, not for bickering pre-teen behavior.

Next guy who steps out of line in here is gonna spend a good long time on the outside looking in.

DM

 

Such a stupid thread, but yet so entertaining!


Okay, let me chime in seriously:

1) Why is everybody looking at the question in terms of black and white, yes or no? Why can't it just be a shade of gray between black and white, a degree of how much, or a scale of 0 to 10?


2) Noekult brings up a good point above. That leads me to thinking . . .why ask exotic car owners what is exotic, as such things are ordinary to them? It's hard to consider "X" exotic when you're accustomed to looking at something equally or more exotic in your garage. . . . so, maybe a better place to ask this question would be on PontiacSunbirdChat.com?

 

Sub 4 second 0-60 acceleration

 

IMHO Exotic means singularly different, breath taking. Does not necessarily equate to hp or 0-60. Kind of like the definition of porn - I know when I see it.

Ferraris, Lambos, konisegg are exotic.

Anything coming out of Detroit, while it may have great performance or some nice styling, is not Exotic. There are simply too many mass produced versions.

We can go back an forth on this topic but you will not change how people view these cars. It is an opinion based on preferances, experiences, etc. Most people on the street if asked pick the exotics from this list:

a. Ferrari
b. Dodge
c. Honda
d. GM

would pick "a".

If you have a Viper or Corvette and want to consider them exotic, that is your perogative. Just don't expect that the rest of the world will share your view.

 

I don't think it's too long before "every" serious sportscar can match these numbers, and that's why I don't think number benchmarks are a good idea. Would you outrule Ferrari's that can't do 0-60 in sub 4 seconds as supercars/exotics??