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That 1.75MM 4-cam is one of my favorite ads. Funny how in 1980, within the same decade, another 275/4 was offered for $35,000. That's a fifty-fold in value in only 9 years!
When I was in college in the early-mid 70's, in 1974 a classmate of mine with far greater means than I had at the time told me that he was trying to convince his father to buy him a Lusso that he knew was for sale for "less than $8,000". I wonder if he was talking about the one in the ad that you posted from 1974? PS: He wasn't successful in convincing his father to buy the Lusso. C'est dommage!
If I were in his shoes, I would've taken the high road and sprung for the 275GTB/4 under 10k. My argument would've been: "But father, it's the fastest and most beautiful of the 275 series, and it's going to sell for over $1,000,000 35 years from now, I just know it!!!"
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I bought a 67 330GTC for $7500 in 1977. My nice house in an upscale Chicago suburb where I parked my Ferrari, cost about $50,000. 32 years later (I sold car and house decades ago) both are worth about 12-15 times that amount, but it's obviously not in constant dollars. If you had bought a broad market index fund for the same amount of money in 1977, you'd be better off financially even considering the recent crash, without even considering the costs of maintenance and insurance. What's important (obviously) is the pleasure of ownership and not the financial transactions surrounding the market. Those ads are great fun to read and go "dang, if only...." but they reflected the market at the time. There were far fewer cars then, of course, but also far fewer people with the means to purchase them. I do regret not buying a Monza which I could have had in '75 for around $6000. My reason? It had only four cylinders! D'oh! Now THAT car purchased for $6K would have beaten the market substantially.
I wonder what of the more mass produced 80's and 90's cars are sitting around today that will be looked back at longingly.
And those 575 550 coupes at $70-$110,000 can probably equate to the relative sales prices in these ads in their day.
Probably. My house-to-car ratio then was about 6.7 to 1. That would be about the same ratio for the same house and a 550 (the "modern 330GTC") today.
Very much more recent, but still interesting, and I hope not too far off topic: Auctioned by Bonhams UK 2004. This is mainly parts but has the 3 cars at the bottom. I was at the sale and thought it was all far too expensive, but most of it looks cheap now! 418 A selection of Ferrari 250GT spares, £391 419 A good autojumblers lot, £253 426 A dark red racing seat, £1,150 431 Two new/old stock Marchall competition headlamp units, £161 432 Two new/old stock Marchall competition headlamp units, £184 433 Two new/old stock Marchall competition headlamp units, £184 435 Two new/old stock Marchall competition spotlight units, £368 436 Two new/old stock Marchall (250 GTO) rectangular spotlight units, £184 437 A Jaeger 7000rpm revolution counter, £173 438 A Jaeger 7000rpm revolution counter, £253 439 A Jaeger 8 day dashboard mounting clock, £92 440 A Jaeger 8 day dashboard mounting clock, £863 441 An MG dashboard unit, £81 442 A rare Alfa Romeo 8c 2900 rear light cluster, £633 443 A fine and rare Smiths time of trip clock, £920 444 A Smiths SS Jaguar 5000rpm revolution counter, £207 445 A rare SACMA Ferrari oil temperature gauge, £230 446 A good quantity of Smiths, Jaeger, Brevete and similar dashboard instruments, £81 447 A Jaeger 160kph speedometer, £276 448 A rare Jaeger 210kph speedometer, £207 450 A rare Jaeger 5200rpm revolution counter, £253 451 A rare Smiths 6500rpm revolution counter and cable, £633 452 A rare Jaeger 10000rpm revolution counter, £520 453 A box of new/old stock / restored rear and wing top light fittings, £460 454 A Veglia Borletti 7000rpm revolution counter, £46 455 Two Jaeger 8 day dashboard mounting clocks, £138 456 A rare Veglia Ferrari water temperature gauge, £978 457 A similar and early Ferrari water temperature gauge. £207 458 A rare SACMA Ferrari oil temperature gauge, £207 459 A rare SACMA Ferrari oil temperature gauge, £345 460 A rare SACMA Ferrari water temperature gauge, £345 461 A rare SACMA Ferrari oil pressure gauge, £230 462 A rare SACMA Ferrari fuel gauge, £403 463 A rare SACMA Ferrari oil temperature gauge, £230 464 A rare Veglia Ferrari 8000rpm revolution counter, £4,140 465 A Veglia Borletti 12hour clock in good original condition. £403 466 A rare Jaeger 10000rpm revolution counter, £863 467 A Veglia 180mph speedometer, £920 468 A Veglia 8000rpm revolution counter, £690 469 A rare SACMA oil temperature gauge, £322 470 A Veglia Ferrari oil pressure gauge, £1,955 471 An SACMA water temperature gauge, £322 472 A Maserati 300s water temperature gauge, £345 473 An SACMA fuel pressure gauge, £483 474 A Jaeger 8000rpm revolution counter, £288 475 A set of Veglia Ferrari 250 gauges, £1,840 476 A rare Jaeger 87mph speedometer, £69 477 A Ferrari 275GTB Veglia Borletti 180mph speedometer, £161 478 A Ferrari 275GTB Veglia Borletti 180mph speedometer, £368 479 A selection of Magneti Marelli and Bosch 3 position ignition switches, £863 479a An 8C Alfa Romeo (Bosch) magneto switch. £81 480 A quantity of new/old stock voltage regulators and other switches and spares. £230 481 A quantity of new/old stock Ferrari related items, £2,990 482 A Marelli 6cylinder distributor type 585 F, £920 483 An 8cylinder Bosch distributor and cap type VG8 BR143. £58 484 Three 4cylinder Marelli distributors, £1,725 486 An 8cylinder Bosch VF8A 5107 distributor and cap. £150 487 A 4cylinder Marelli distributor, £633 488 A Lucas Special Edition Dynamo No. DA26, £46 489 A Marelli 12V starter motor for a Ferrari 275GTB. £460 490 A rare Scintilla type 1877 14hp starter motor, £368 492 A Marelli Dynamo type 400- 12 – 2300s. £345 495 A Marelli alternator type 6CA 101B 40-12-2300, £253 496 A Scintilla magneto type VMN 7DFA, £1,035 497 A rare Magneti Marelli type ST25 DAS-NB magneto, £8,510 498 A rare Maserati 8C supercharger, £403 499 A good pair of ‘Owl Eye’ Lucas tail lamp clusters, £92 500 A good pair of Lucas ‘New Alto’ 12V horns. £115 501 A new pair of Alfa Romeo 2.9B half shafts. £253 502 Three Solex 32BI carburettors, £713 503 A rare Weber 55 ASI carburettor, £575 504 A good pair of rare SU sandcast 2" carburettors, £4,715 505 A rare 4stud Weber 58 DCOA3 carburettor, £2,530 506 Three Weber 48 DCO3 carburettors, £3,910 507 A Weber 38 DCO3 carburettor No. 323, £1,093 508 A rare Weber 36 DO4 carburettor, £253 509 A rare set of 6 Weber 38 DCN carburettors, £9,775 511 A good pair of Weber 40 DCO3 carburettors, £1,495 512 A good pair of Weber 40 DCO3 carburettors, £1,495 513 A rare Maserati 300s 6 stud oil pump. £978 514 A rare pair of Weber 52 DCO3 carburettors £1,955 516 Three Weber 36 DCF3 carburettors, £4,370 517 A Weber 40 DCM1 carburettor, £322 518 Three Weber 40 DCL6 carburettors and inlet manifolds, £3,220 519 A pair of Weber 35 DCO carburettors, £115 520 A rare pair of 6 stud Weber 58 DCOA3 carburettors, £22,425 521 A rare Zenith 48K 747 Type 51 GP Bugatti carburettor, £920 522 Three Weber 45 DCO4 carburettors, £5,520 523 A large and comprehensive collection of Weber carburettor spares and accessories, £920 524 A set of four Borrani RW3526 wire spoked wheels. £1,495 525 A Type 51 Bugatti radiator surround and core, £2,530 526 A set of four Borrani RW3264 wire spoked wheels. £1,265 527 A Borrani RW4041 wire spoked wheel. £184 528 A set of four Borrani RW3060 16 x 5 wire spoked wheels. £1,725 529 Three Borrani RW3770 15 x 6 wire spoked wheels. £575 530 Four Borrani RW3563 16 x 4.5 wire spoked wheels. £1,093 531 Two Borrani RW3807 15 x 7.5 wire spoked wheels. £748 532 One Borrani RW3690 15 x 6 wire spoked wheel. £403 533 One Borrani RW3879 wire spoked wheel. £115 534 One Borrani RW3241 15 x 5.5 wire spoked wheel. £403 535 Five re-cast Bugatti Type 51 wheels. £2,415 536 pair of rare Borrani 19 x 4.5 pre-war strap type wire spoked wheels. £863 538 Three various Borrani wire spoke wheel rims, £184 541 A Lancia Aurelia transaxle casing, £196 542 A Bugatti Type 51 reproduction engine, £16,100 543 A Bugatti Type 51 gearbox casing, ZF differential, £5,750 544 An original Bugatti Type 57 engine, £17,250 545 A Bugatti Type 57 front axle, £1,265 546 A Bugatti Type 57 Stromberg carburettor type UU-2. £138 547 A quantity of Houdaile shock absorber levers, £81 549 An Alfa Romeo 8C 2900 differential (new). £403 550 A rare Magneti Marelli ST25 DAS – NB No 328 6 cylinder magneto. £6,095 551 A new/old stock Ferrari 250 gasket kit. £460 552 A box of early competition steering and linkage ball joints, £460 553 Ferrari 250 brake and clutch pedals, £943 554 Six new Maserati 250F pistons, £2,070 555 A 250 SWB middle section steering column part, £1,265 556 A 250 GTO dry sump casing, £1,380 557 Two (new) Ferrari 250 stub axles. £1,093 558 Four (new) Ferrari 330 stub axles. £1,035 559 A rare Magneti Marelli ST216 DAS No. 181 magneto, £6,670 560 Two rare Ferrari V12 distributor angle drives. £1,380 561 A Ferrari 250 GT pedal box, £1,553 562 A fine pair of Marchall headlamps, £1,035 563 A Ferrari 250 GT (possibly Lusso) late type cylinder head. £1,035 564 Four (new) Ferrari 250SWB tailpipe end snaps, £920 565 A selection of competition Ferrari and other fuel filler caps and kits. £460 566 A new set of Ferrari 250TR / GTO high compression pistons. £633 567 A box of Ferrari 500TR / 250TR (new) pedal boxes, £1,380 568 A selection of Ferrari 250/275 LM gear parts and sprockets. £115 569 A Ferrari 275 engine, £19,838 570 A Ferrari 250LM front engine casing, £805 571 Two Ferrari 250 GTO 6carb link cam boxes, £1,380 572 A Ferrari 250 GT gearbox type 508E. £1,380 572A A Ferrari type 603E gearbox. £805 573 A Ferrari 250 GT (new) crown wheel and pinion (ratio 8-33). £518 574 A Ferrari 250 SWB l/h axle tube, £748 576 Ferrari 250 Tour de France l/h axle tube, £1,265 577 A Ferrari 250 GT prop shaft. £322 578 An early Ferrari 250 sump, £1,840 579 A Ferrari 250 r/h/d steering box, £1,725 580 A Ferrari 250GT cylinder block, £5,520 581 A (new) 250 GTO alloy fuel tank, £2,530 582 A selection of Ferrari 500TR magnesium and aluminium brake shoe castings. £633 583 A Ferrari 250GT throttle pedal, £1,380 584 A (new) brake servo for a 250 GT, £518 585 A rare and early ‘Mona’Ferrari fuel pump. £518 586 A quantity of 1950s SU type fuel pumps. £207 587 A box containing various distributor angle drives, £1,380 588 An early ‘Fispa’ Ferrari mechanical fuel pump, £978 589 An early V12 Ferrari plug lead conduit, £575 590 A C’Type Jaguar cylinder head and cam boxes, £3,680 591 Two C’Type Jaguar cam boxes, £460 592 Two reconditioned Type 506 Andre Hartford shock absorbers. £207 593 A good pair of 1950s Bosch headlamps, £288 594 A Ferrari 166MM gearbox end plate, £403 595 A Maserati 250S cylinder head and cam cover. £3,910 596 A Maserati Birdcage camshaft, £460 597 Four new/old stock Ferrari 410 brake drums, £3,680 598 An original BMW 328 Engine, £3,450 599 Four ‘Luvax’ SS100 Jaguar hydraulic shock absorbers. £437 600 A pair of 3.5litre SS Jaguar cam boxes, £81 601 Two of SS100 Jaguar (new) seat backs and supports. £322 602 A Coventry Climax FPF cylinder head and 2litre block (repair evident), £1,495 603 A rare Maserati 8C2600 M horn push button. £230 604 A collection of early SU carburettors and parts, £207 605 An SS 1.5litre Jaguar differential, £1,610 606 A Ferrari 275GTB Veglia Borletti 8000rpm revolution counter. £460 607 A Ferrari 275GTB Veglia Borletti 8000rpm revolution counter. £437 608 A Maserati 300s transaxle gear case section casting pattern. £100-200 £322 610 A Testa Rossa rear axle centre section casing casting pattern. £253 611 A Testa Rosa pedal box and end parts casting patterns. £138 613 A 250 TR gear change housing casting pattern. £58 614 A 2litre Ferrari TR bell housing casting pattern. £23 615 A four cylinder Ferrari sump casting pattern. £92 616 A four cylinder front intermediate casing casting pattern. £173 617 2litre Ferrari TR main and end gearbox casing casting pattern. £322 620 A large selection of SS Jaguar spares and accessories, £483 621 An Austin A60 gearbox. £173 622 A small selection of AC Ace / Cobra trim fittings and parts, £138 623 Two boxes containing Ferrari 275 GTB transaxle internals. £978 624 A Marelli 21F1.8 12019 starter motor. £518 626 A Bosch BGC 0.5/6 RS28P starter motor, £288 627 A Bosch RJB 99/12 1100 dynamo. £138 629 A Marelli MT21 1.8 1209 starter motor. £345 631 A new Bugatti Type 57 steering wheel. £345 632 A C’Type Jaguar steering wheel. £2,530 634 A new steering wheel suitable for use on the Ferrari 250 SWB. £748 635 A steering wheel suitable for use on the AC Ace / Cobra. £115 636 Two Maserati 300s front uprights, £173 637 An original Ferrari 500 Mondial crankcase and sump, £18,400 637A A box of Ferrari 250 differential parts. £345 637B An Alfa Romeo 8C Coil. £92 637C A Ferrari Monza gear change assembly. £288 637D A rare MT 23A starter motor (suitable for the 300s Maserati) £345 637E A rare MT 23A starter motor (suitable for the 300s Maserati) £518 637G A 250 TR gear lever and various change assemblies. £633 638A A front engine case possibly for a 275GTB. £575 638B Two boxed Marchal 672-300 spotlight units. £403 638D A Maserati 8C cylinder head and engine timing cover. £690 638E A Ferrai 250 rear axle centre dection alloy case. £805 638F Four Ferrari 250 brake drum assemblies. £6,900 638G A selection of Maserati Birdcage spares and accessories. £633 639 Maserati 300S £34,500 639A A rare Ford GT40 fuel tap and a set of Knock offs. £207 639B A 250 GTO windscreen. £403 639C A box of Ferrari 250 Hubs. £1,495 639D A selection of 750 Monza spares £1,840 639E A selection of Ferrari 250 GT and other spares. £1,093 641 1966 Ferrari 275 GTB Alloy Berlinetta 08249 £166,500 642 The Ex-Fernando de Mascarenhas/Borge Barreto,1955 3-litre FERRARI 500/750 MONDIAL/MONZA Spider Corsa SPORTS-RACING TWO-SEATER 0560MD £353,500 643 The Ex-Franco Cortese,1956 Ferrari 500 TESTA ROSSA SPIDER 0640 MD/TR £210,500
That's not really off topic. Thanks for the post, though. Those were '04? I'd have to say that the Alloy 275 was very well bought. Anyway, 2 more ads. Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
The birth of vintage racing recreated a market and changed obsolete cars into a whole new commodity. The Lotus 23 era brought an end to the Lola Mk1/ Lotus 11 front engine cars and even many larger bore racers. (I bought a Lola Mk 1 with a Coventry Climax 1100 engine with dual side draft 40 DCOE Webers -that's one throat per cylinder--for $800 in the early 70's). 20 years later, the old cars were priced through the roof because there was a venue for people to run those beautiful machines in competition. Now Birdcage Masers and 250 TRs are too valuable to run wheel-to-wheel.
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Been awhile, here are some good ones: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
You really know how to make a grown man cry! I was so proud of myself when I sold 0515GT for what was then a record price for a TdF; little did I know! Recently, I sold my collection of R&T magazines to one who posts here occasionally; maybe he'll grace us with a few tidbits. When I couldn't sell a car from an L.A. Times ad, I would go to R&T as the next step, although their lead time was off-putting. Yes, believe it or not, it was sometimes hard to find a buyer at $5000 or $6000!
Didn't Chris Cord once have a GTO on the market Circ. 1968 for about $7500? Supposedly it took several months and a price drop to sell it! There was also an article from Feb. 1974 (Autoweek?) commenting on investing in Ferraris. It claimed that "collectors had missed the boat:a good Tdf, once $4000 in 1968, is now $8500!; and a 250LM, once $10000 in 1971, is now $21000!" Even then, people were reminiscing! And here is some more salt for your wounds: Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I was in high school in 1974 and drove a 1967 Shelby GT-350 (paid $2,850.) and I sold it in 1976 for $2,350 ( 3 speeding tickets). Nobody wanted a Shelby, everyone was looking at used Corvette's
I have a somewhat similar story: My uncle began his job as a high school teacher in 1970. That same year he bought a good original supercharged T-Bird for $2500. By 1975, he self-restored it to near concours, and another collector offered his 289 cobra in an outright trade for the car. He declined, and ended up selling the car a year later for $14k. He then bought a new cosworth vega, and, I believe he used the rest of the dough to build a pool and a deck. Concours T-Birds were in the same price bracket as a good California Spyder at the time.
Parked my 330 next to a C/4 at Lime Rock today (Sunday), asked the fellow if that was his first Ferrari. Nope he said he has owned a 330GT and 330GTC, a SWB, and a 275 4 cam. Said the 4 cam was his favorite Ferrari. Told stories of him and his wife driving with his son holding on to the luggage straps in the rear. Son who was standing near us said "I wish you still had that car," he said "Remember that you used to scream when I gunned it? And not in joy either." I add this tale to this particular thread because he told me that Kirk F White was trying to sell him and LM for $14,000 and took him twice around Lime Rock. He thought it was too much of a race car for his daily use. He also mentioned that Bob Grossman had two GTOs on his lot for $4900 each. He felt he could have gotten the two for $9000 but they just seemed like old clapped out race cars. He said his favorites of the cars he owned was the 4 cam. He had to sell it or he felt he was going to kill himself in it. Told me that he found out the front end does indeed lift at 155 when he was escaping from a police pursuit. He said that was the second time that happened. Ah those were the days.
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from a UK Ferrari brochure I have - I think it was 1965 prices in GBP Image Unavailable, Please Login