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  1. Marcel Massini

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    #9426 Marcel Massini, Jan 11, 2016
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  2. andymont

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    Great pictures....

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  3. furoni

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    The 612 is one of the most beautifull sports cars built by Ferrari, together with the 312p....too bad none of them was very competitive
     
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    #9429 andymont, Jan 11, 2016
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    The b/w picture in backgound shows a 500F2 ( or a 625F1) towed by a Fiat 600 Multipla of the Automobile Club of Modena.
    This scene, reproduced in foreground on the two die cast models, can be dated (perhaps...) from 1956 ahead, because that Fiat went on sale from spring 1956.
    Somebody says that this racing car was towed to the railways station in order to a shipping.

    Who knows more about this fact ? What was the meaning of towing a four years old racing car, through the Modena streets ? Does somebody knows which was exactly the racing car and why was there ?

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  5. wbaeumer

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    Ferrari, Maserati and OSCA tested their team- and customer cars on the Autodromo, a kind of a circuit with a small airport in the middle. It was located in the center of Modena. In those days the cars were driven by the mechanics or towed behind lorrys. So a possible Autodromo tour is another one to the train thesis.

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  6. 375+

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    Holy smokes! Perfectly captures that moment in time, really remarkable. Thank you Marcel.
     
  7. 375+

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    Agree, probably enroute to the Autodromo for testing.
     
  8. 375+

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    Respectfully disagree. 312P had a 2nd at Sebring and at Spa. Chris Amon with the 612 had a 2nd and one or two 3rd place finishes in Can Am against the all conquering McLarens. On style both were the class of the field, they were the last of the truly beautiful Ferrari sports racers.
     
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    #9435 andymont, Jan 12, 2016
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    Was that 500F2 ( or 625 F1) still owned by Ferrari or not more ?
    If yes, why to test such an old car (disused from at least three seasons) ?
    Did that car went from Maranello (23 Kms far), poorly towed by an other car, just to be tested on the Aerautodromo ?
    Didn't they have a truck to do that ?
    Why to use a Fiat 600 Multipla owned by the Automobile Club of Modena and not a Ferrari vehicle ?


    I guess that there is an other and more plausible story behind that picture and those die cast models.

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    It is difficult to tell from the murky photograph but is the racecar possibly a Maserati 250F? They were front line grand prix cars through 1958 and run by privateers beyond that. Walter care to chime in?
     
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    #9437 andymont, Jan 12, 2016
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    No doubt, the racing car is a Ferrari.
    The die cast model is a Ferrari and who owns it and the picture, states that is totally a Ferrari event.
    I don't know more.

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    I don't think we desagree at all, we both agree they were the most beaufifull sports cars Ferrari ever made.....and, if they didn't won a single race, i can't call them very competitive cars....but as you said, in terms of style they were head and shoulders above the competition.
     
  14. Athanase

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    The tyres of the 500F2/625F1 are not period correct, more 60s.
     
  15. wbaeumer

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    Andrea,
    as you know - in Italy everything was possible.

    Perhaps the car was used on the Autodromo by an amateur race driver. This kind of drivers used old cars until the early 60s.

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  16. wbaeumer

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    Its a Ferrari!

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    Possibly a very early Fiero replica of a ....917....mashup... Ferrari? Can someone translate?

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    #9443 andymont, Jan 12, 2016
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    Yes, but does somebody knows the reason why two ( not just one ) die cast producers decided to realize
    such a particular subject ?

    If a common towing, why to reproduce it, through a model ?
    This was a special event, so which one was it ?

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  19. wbaeumer

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    Andrea,

    perhaps because it looks funny and cuious...

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  21. alebart3

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    Hi I was really impressed for yours eagle eyes!
    May be you now the rigth size of the 500 F2 in'52 and '53?

    I just find a damaged Exoto 500 F2..but: the beautyfull tyres was rigth stamped "Englebert" (rigth, was the Swaters yellow #18) even they have the "Pirelli" tread on them!

    Sorry for my bad english,
    all the best
    Alessandro
     
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    #9449 michael platzer, Jan 16, 2016
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    Left is a 500 Superfast. The colours would match with 6049SF. Do you have the plates or info when and where the pic was taken?
    Right 250 GT Pininfarina Cabriolet SI, but what s/n? Are that french plates?
     
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    250 Cabrio 0737 ???
    Best, Miki-Paki.
     

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