Really? The technology in this car far outstrips a 458. American Electronics and engineering vs Italian Electronics and egineering. Get real.
At 400k no doubt they will sell out quickly. It's crazy that the insane rise in super car prices over the last ten years have desensitized most of us to a 400k ford price tag. Almost every new exotic that had an equivalent model ten years ago has an msrp that is in many cases 100% higher. Manufacturers are getting smarter I guess and taking the money up front instead of leaving it to dealers and flippers and exporters to pocket.
What the dealer "gouge factor" will be is the interesting question to me. I'll bet it will be far more than 10%.
Lol. Maybe you should let it win a race first? What is the ground breaking tech other than a carbon body and active aero? The engine has been around a little while in racing and the 488 will have just as much or more power. I like the ford GT a lot but declaring it the greatest thing ever when it hasn't even been tested is silly. It's a bespoke racecar being built by hand in a specialized race shop in Canada. Hard to compare directly to a car that will be massed produced in the thousands but still be able to compete head to head.
You mean 488 right? This is coming out next year; its competition will be the 488; the 458 will not be able to hang. I disagree - it's a much more exclusive car that is being built by hand; there is no reason to set the price so low. Also, not that I want one, but the new Corvette is a monster and can hang with just about anything in the world.
Single track the reason I have such confidence in this car is that it is being built specifically as a race car to win at LeMans first to be homologated later... you won't see the road versions until halfway through the 2016 season. If they win at LeMans the 400K MSRP will be a distant memory - it will be MUCH higher than that. The cars introduction is more like the original Ford GT40 was in the 60's which proved to be a world class winner and an incredible investment. Engineering? You don't think Ford won't pull out ALL the stops on this car? They have FAR more money than Ferrari, Bugatti. and Lamborghini combined and can pull in the greatest engineers on the planet. They are building it in a specialized shop in Canada like you say and will have the most exotic pieces in place to win when it is finished. This car will be a world beater and the Speciale and 458/488 won't even be in the same class as it is. LaFerrari is its class. A win at LeMans will put the car close to it in value as well. We shall see.. Now if I could only score one. Fat chance.
I'm sure they will have no issue selling out; I'm just not sure how good it will be yet compared to the competition. I'm hoping for it to be awesome - that will push all the manufacturers forward and Ford is the most exciting US manufacturer to me. I just hope they are building the hard part which is the tech to mass produce CF tub cars. The engine is already race-proven. Ferrari has access to all the same engineering as Ford does; it's just a question of how you allocate your money. Of course Ford is a substantially larger company, and always has been. The thing is, as you said, Ford is building this for road racing first, then the road second. Ferrari only does this with F1 by choice. Ferrari built the 488 for the road first and racing second - if at all; still TBD. They will make tons of money on it and use it for racing. I doubt Ford makes any money on the GT with the way it is being built. Certainly a tiny fraction of what Ferrari will make on each 488. The buyers will make out though because they should appreciate a ton. Different goals from different companies. LaFerrari isn't racing; none of the hypercars are...so they better find someone to race against. ; ) I hope you get one man; that would be awesome!
My bet iot is will be significantly lighter than Ferrari and by design its aero esp downforce will be superior. If you tack a car the Gt will be the way to go, for the street the ferrari may be abetetr option. I see very few 400K cars at the track. Course if Ford made more and sold them for 200kish we would see quite a few at the track. One othr thing its got going for it, its a ford. To me these days ferrari is so kitch that its negative stigma, like a dentist riding harley
I hope this one comes out of the gate better than the original GT40 did in the sixties. It took Ford a while to beat Ferrari, even with all its money.
While Ford started up in 1964 with the GT40 that had a few problems they went 1, 2, 3 in 1966 at LeMans. 1967, 1968 and 1969 produced wins so convincing that Ferrari took its ball and went home from LeMans forever.....
They did have quite a few problems in the beginning. They had to enlist outside sources to accomplish this if I remember correctly(Shelby, Holman & Moody). The 1966 win(1,2,3) were all MKll's which had 427's in them.
Different times...different technology; alot of the testing can be done virtually through demodulators affixed to the test car. There will always be small fixes i.e the airbag and transaxle bolts recalls on our FGTs. Not bad for a car made ten years ago. I think Ford is putting all the stops on this one.
Not sure what you are trying to imply with this sentence. They didnt stop competing at Le Mans in 1969.
Oh they made a token effort in 70- 72 but never again won after Ford thrashed them with the GT40. After 72 they left for good. I "guess"you could call that competing,but their heart wasn't in it. There is talk (probably just talk) of them returning and wouldn't that be cool.,,Ford vs Ferrari again!
Not sure why... but after the latest price reports of $400k the car suddenly doesn't look as good as it did. The car almost looks cheap. Perhaps I'm expecting more? Or maybe it just doesn't look as good in silver. Hm.
hahahahaha nice comeback. Wait so moving out of Michigan would cause my IQ to go up? Can I put a fin on my car and gain 50hp like you did . Your not smart enough to be sarcastic sorry Charlie.
In general I am not a fan of uber tech in cars, too much seems contrived or designed to make a too heavy car faster for one lap, all at the expense of drivign peasure... The Gt seems to be one of those cars where all the tech has a defined purpose and it somehow pulls it all together, makign the car betetr aero, weight handling performnce etc. A F16 of cars if you will. Its a fresh take on the supercar, its design is not heritage its purposeful, really derived from the track, that soemhow makes it way more authentic than any of the current ferraris or lambos, which are dramaticaly styled for effect. heavy and just very powerful. If Badge is not your driving motivator or irrelevant, then this to me looks to be one of the, if not the most exciting fast cars about. I guess if they want to sell really limited numbers 400k can be supported. I wish they made more and we could buy one for 250K, its one of the few paddle turbo cars I really would buy because everyhting in it is all of a piece.
Interesting post. The only thing I disagree with is current Ferrari's being styled for looks. They have more aero than ever and now active aero on the "intro model" in the 488. We also don't know what it weighs yet do we? At 250k they will make no money. I would bet they make very little at 400k honestly.
