I think it will stand, 30% of the teams thought it was in the rules and the other 7 teams thought about doing it anyway... I think it will stand. If it doesn't then the situation will be diffused, the 3 teams will have their points advantage and a race or two to modify the car to fit the regulations. No biggie.
It is a biggie, changing the chassis/gearbox to accommodate a new diffuser, this is probably why there is a fuss about it, there isn't a quick fix.
It is a biggie, changing the chassis/gearbox to accommodate a new diffuser, this is probably why there is a fuss about it, there isn't a quick fix.
It is a biggie, changing the chassis/gearbox to accommodate a new diffuser, this is probably why there is a fuss about it, there isn't a quick fix.
This has happened before and it's been solved quickly before. You don't have to rebuild the car, the car comes apart in tiny sections, they'll have past ideas that lead up to the current configuration of the car. How long has this been in the media? How long have the teams known about this? I'm sure all 10 teams already have blue prints for a new diffuser, the 3 teams using the one in question will have a backup all ready to go in case it was found they were violation the rules. The other 7 teams have known about the diffuser and I'm sure started thinking of ways to incorporate it into their car. Some of them may have even made similar diffusers and scrapped them because they thought it was against regulations. It's not going to be long before all the teams push the diffuser specifications as far as possible. I see a quick end coming to this issue.
Well I agree with you I don't want the issue to rumble on, and yes I'am sure steps have been taken either way by the teams to adjust there car's accordingly, however as I understand it, that's 7 teams! may have to renew there chassis just to stay incontention, you just can't bolt on a new diffuser, it a whole redesign of the gearbox and surrounding area, hardly a minor issue IMO.
I've already spoke about this one point. The 7 teams aren't starting in 2 weeks on a "new" car. They already have started on this section of bodywork, some are further along than others I'm sure, don't let it worry you Ferrari and the rest will be caught up very shortly and if the decision goes in their favor, the 3 teams in question will be caught up quickly as well. It's somewhat annoying to hear the phrase "bolt on" at the beginning of every season. Yes the cars are sophisticated but they are stripped down and rebuilt with many, many tiny pieces every few days for most of the year and development doesn't stop for months to come, the teams can cope with this issue handily.
Nevermind Neil, the whole debate has been about diffusers. Your comment on the problem being "diffused" was funny in the context of the current issue. Basil Brush would always say boom boom in this situation.
I never said 7 teams were going to start in 2 weeks with new cars , how do you know they have started on renewing this section, or are you just assuming.? By what I have read, Mr Max and his FIA cronies have lead the teams to believe conflicting advise, with some teams being told it was illegal and therefore not developing it, and others being given the go ahead. As you can see clear as mud!. thanks MAX!. I'am not denying or worrying about Ferrari or Mclaren catching up, I like the fact, and I'am sure back at HQ there all working hard on it.
I saw the highlighted part of my post you made and made the connection, it was the picture of the dog and the caption that threw me... I'm still thrown because I don't recognize the dog or the caption.
You said it was a big deal and that the 7 teams would have to redesign the gearbox, chassis and surrounding area. You made it sound like a massive task and my post was just downplaying the amount of work ahead because a boat load of it will already have been done. How do I "know" that the teams have started working on "it"... because the 7 teams have known about this issue for more than 5 seconds, it would be idiotic not to start working on this issue ASAP and for as long as possible without interrupting the race week end. I've also seen how race teams prepare and tweak cars over winter breaks, this will not be a major set back any more than a team's slow development over a few weks of racing.
Thats OK, was a popular show when i was kid back in the mid 70's. English show. (edit, he's a fox btw) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A3NGyNBc-cU&feature=related Anyway back on topic, hopefully it gets sorted out soon.
+1 [Although I think I'd have said "it might be a biggie....." ] My understanding is that the 3 have somehow integrated the rear crash structure / gearbox into the diffuser. Now, IIRC, if you start messing with the crash structure you may need to get your whole chassis re-certified - A definite biggie. You may also need to redesign your gearbox casing - Also non-trivial. I'm certainly not sure, but as Steve noted, I suspect the fuss is at least partly because they recognize that there isn't a quick fix. If they could simply drop their diffusers and bolt on a "good" one they'd have already done it IMHO - They've been studying these things for months now after all...... Interesting times indeed, Cheers, Ian
A poster on another forum made a pretty good point that F1 gearboxes are very time consuming to fabricate all by themselves, never mind the time required in the design and testing of them.