| Author | Message | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 822 Registered: 3-2001 |
Several mos ago, I asked Howie about eBay costs.... ex: $50K car. Here was his response: Bob, If the fees are still the same, it costs $ 40.00 to list a vehicle on Ebay. There are options that cost a tad extra, such as setting a reserve and using the "buy it now". If the car meets the reserve on Ebay, there is an additional $ 40.00 flat fee. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 531 Registered: 7-2002 |
I heard it costs a flat amount to list the car on ebay. Not sure if htey get a % or not. As for emailing the seller offline I guess I am talking about cars that are still under reserve. Once above thier price they would probably wait. Most don't make reserve so a seller is open to a "real" buyer with a "real" check rather than phantom buyers looking for a steal. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2892 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think there is a % of the sale that goes to ebay or is it a flat fee? | ||
| Ron R (Ronr)
New member Username: Ronr Post Number: 28 Registered: 10-2002 |
Jim, Regarding the ebay sales, what is the incentive for the seller to work a deal with someone offline, vs continuing with the auction and hoping for a higher price? Thanks, Ron | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 340 Registered: 4-2002 |
Good to hear Tillman, Thank you for the info! | ||
| Jackie Stars (Jackie)
New member Username: Jackie Post Number: 2 Registered: 12-2002 |
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| Tillman Strahan (Tillman)
Junior Member Username: Tillman Post Number: 186 Registered: 11-2001 |
Marcus, When you're serious, talk to Exotic Car World. I know they don't have a physical location right now, but the people there were just great when I bought my 328. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 338 Registered: 4-2002 |
Thanks Jim, I will take your advice and deal with someone from the group, I do not want to get so angry with the whole process, so this is good to know. As always all of you have been very helpful and kind-Thank you again for being so patient and willing to answer any of my questions-God bless you! | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 497 Registered: 7-2002 |
Marcus: Tons of 328's on ebay www.traderonline.com Also on ebay don't bid and buy. Email the owner and they will work a deal with you offline. Also, this board has some good guys on it with personal cars or they broker others. Martin www.4ferrari.com, Howie www.exoticautobrokers.com You will see all kinds of prices from $39k up to $59K. Any decent '86, '87 can be had today for $42K tops. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 335 Registered: 4-2002 |
I am not sure if this is a stupid question, but when I decide to start looking seriously for a 328 where do I go (San Antonio)? When I go in there I want the experience to be exciting and pleasurable, none of this Bull Sh*T!!! | ||
| Chris F. (Dallasguy)
New member Username: Dallasguy Post Number: 22 Registered: 10-2002 |
one word...Shocked! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 983 Registered: 7-2001 |
Damn Bob, I'm stunned too. I've driven there in the Ferrari and can't get people to talk to me. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 794 Registered: 3-2001 |
I was in Plano yesterday and stopped by the new FoD. Believe it or not, I was actually greeted by someone. He walked me back to the service facility and showed me around... then introduced me to Michael Heywood, the svc mgr. I was stunned. | ||
| Scott Juarez (Scottjua)
Junior Member Username: Scottjua Post Number: 51 Registered: 4-2001 |
I used to frequent FoD when Bill was the Manager back in the Day. Talk about an unpleasant person. I had been treated like trash by that guy more than I cared to count, but at the same time I paid him little attention. I was there for myself and my own curiosities in looking at the cars close up. When I met James he was friendly and genuinely nice to me. He's always apt to talk about cars, motorsports or whatever. So is Mike (mechanic). I can talk to them for hours and just shoot the breeze about cars and technical questions I have about Ferraris in general. But like Some of you I can't STAND some of the ither personelle. Tony, I'm not sure, he's nice on the FErrarilist (when I was on) but jsut ignores most people in person. not sure why... There's a guy with a British (or similar) accent there now, that I don't like much. He always has a superior tone in his voice and is not friendly at all. Some people may get an aire about them because they feel it fits an image, but at least in my experience James and Mike are REAL people who I can talk to and feel friendly with. As far as I know they have nothign bad to say about anyone. | ||
| william speer (Wspeer)
Junior Member Username: Wspeer Post Number: 98 Registered: 8-2002 |
if i am not mistaken, tony nevotti is the sales agent for fod, previously, he was at foh (good ridance). he has been an ass every time i have talked to him. years ago, sid simpson was working at foh and that is how i learned about ferraris. sid was a wonderful asset to the marque. after sid retired, i stopped going to ferrai of houston because of tony and his indifferent attitude. recently, foh added a new sales agent named joe maniacci (sp?) and he is awesome. he participates in the fca-houston club events and actually talks to everyone he can. since joe arrived, foh is a much different place. as for the foh service department, i may be speaking prematurely as i have not had service work done there in a long time, i don't think that they are all that familar with the "older" cars. much of their time and energy is focused on the challenge races and the service work on post 1990 cars, as that is most of what you see being serviced there. i would be very hesitant to take anything older than a 1990 model, as i don't believe they are qualified any longer. but then again, that's what keeps the independent mechanics in business. prior to risi taking over ferrari of dallas, a political thing due to his fna connections, classic bmw was the dealer. there are many cars, including my testarossa, running around with the texas flag emblem on the bumper, a classic trademark. honestly, if i was buying a ferrari new and they put that on my car, i would not be a hapy person. | ||
| Chris F. (Dallasguy)
New member Username: Dallasguy Post Number: 20 Registered: 10-2002 |
Raleigh. Even tho they are not there anymore, ECW was more than happy to let me test a 348 witrh no more than a check of insurance and signing a waiver. I can't believe that FoD was asking for $1500 to test before you buy. I was out looking at the red 328 that was traded in out there recently. I was offered a test drive but James ssaid I would have to come back another time cuz they couldnt do it on a weekend, something about it being too busy to be able to do it. He took my number and said he would call me when it was all cleaned up so I could come look at it and test it if desired. Needless to say, I never got the call. Being in sales myself, I couldn't imagine blowing off a customer of mine who seemed genuinely interested in what I sell. But hey, I have learned that common sense isn't always common practice. Are those guys commisioned salespeople? If they are, no wonder there are no fcars in the employee parking lot. | ||
| Chris F. (Dallasguy)
New member Username: Dallasguy Post Number: 19 Registered: 10-2002 |
Bob. Lineback is about a half mile north of FoD. They are just west of Willowbend mall and the tollway on Park in Plano. I have been in there once before on a weekday when I was up that way visiting clients and they were very helpful. When I was there yesterday, they didnt get to me before I had to leave but there were actually out helping people. | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 567 Registered: 1-2002 |
Raleigh, that is ATROCIOUS sales behavior. I would never tolerate that. When we ordered the 550, I was given the opportunity to drive a pre-owned one BEFORE having to decide whether to order a new one or not. This was at Ferrari of San Antonio. And when we bought the 328 from Ferrari of Los Gatos, both my wife & I were offered to drive it, WITHOUT US EVEN HAVING TO ASK. And, while we exhibited general signs of interest in it, by no means had we decided to buy it, since neither of us had ever driven a 328 before. BTW, I am 41 years old and do not dress expensively nor with tons of fancy jewelry... | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
New member Username: 288gto Post Number: 35 Registered: 10-2002 |
Since I am looking for a 348 I asked to test drive a black one they had at FoD. I was told I had to pay a $1500 deposite and sign something saying that if the car did what I expected that I would buy the car. I said no thanks and walked out. Is that a common thing as well when you want to see if it is the car you want? | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
New member Username: 288gto Post Number: 34 Registered: 10-2002 |
Does FoD even realize that they don't always give good service, or is it that they don't care? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 789 Registered: 3-2001 |
Chris, where is Lineback located? I see their classifieds all the time in the Dallas MN. | ||
| Chris F. (Dallasguy)
New member Username: Dallasguy Post Number: 17 Registered: 10-2002 |
By the way, Lineback Enterprises just down the street has a 456GTA, a 355GTS, and twin 328 Spiders. And they were out helping customers even. It was almost like they were there to sell cars instead of sit behind a desk warming a chair. Amazing. | ||
| Chris F. (Dallasguy)
New member Username: Dallasguy Post Number: 16 Registered: 10-2002 |
I went by the new place today and WOW, what a difference. Unfortunately, the difference is all in the building, not in the service. James was there, but helping a gentleman with a Maserati. The other guys just walked past me repeatedly. Not even a hello. While the new building is impressive, the service is still at the same, sub-par level it has been the last 5 years I have been going in to visit those guys. By the way, there is a Yellow 550 Barchetta, the blue F50, and the Risi Racing 333SP out there. I had to laugh when some poor sap was trying to impress his girlfriend telling her about how the automatic top worked on the 550b just like the 360 spider next to it. (last time I check, the top was not only non-automatic, it was non-existent  | ||
| V.Z. (Ama328)
New member Username: Ama328 Post Number: 18 Registered: 11-2002 |
Phunny how that 'no service' thing goes down...'bout 15 yrs ago, when i was first getting into the 'Ferrari Thing', i dropped by FOD, talked to some sales guy named Tony, who promptly fluffed me off big time, altho before he did he turned me onto the FML...any rate, couple yrs later, after i'd had a used 308 and had decided to buy NEW, not only did i not go by/buy FOD, i didn't even think of checking with them, and probably wouldn't even do so today, even tho i know it's different owner/mgmt/people...sometimes the bad taste lingers a lonnnng time. | ||
| Raleigh Smith (288gto)
New member Username: 288gto Post Number: 13 Registered: 10-2002 |
I was there today and James Dunne greeted me. He has always been friendly even if I am not in a suit. I think the blue 360 is the one to have since the F50 isn't for sale. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 461 Registered: 7-2002 |
I tried to get in the 328, but it was locked. As I was testing the door latch I was imagining the alarm sounding off in the showroom! That'll get ya attention! | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 962 Registered: 7-2001 |
I guess the service I get is more 'no service' than bad service. When I went by last week I was IN the Ferrari, still couldn't get anyone to talk to me. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 460 Registered: 7-2002 |
They used to treat me badly or I should say treat me not at all. However I think I have figured them out. I am young so I don't look like a rich to be customer so if I don't ask anything they figure I am day dreaming. I have gotten good treatment when I ask questions that are relevant like price, miles, services done and I quote some other prices from my research. I figure they think if I know what I am talking about then I "could" be a customer or at least I am not a snot nosed kid asking "how fast does this red one go!" James Dunne has been very nice to me the last 2 times I was in there and a mechanic Steve? was very nice to me. Talked for 10+ mins about the yellow barchetta they have in there and then about 308's reliability so wide range of topics. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 330 Registered: 4-2002 |
JimE, Do they have bad service? They never talk to me when I go in there, so i do not know. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 949 Registered: 7-2001 |
Ok, I went by the new FOD today. The Azzuro California F50 is there, as is the 333sp, and the 550B. Damn nice place, Damn nice cars, same damn service. They've got a nice set of matched Vespas, one that says "Rubens" the other "Michael". Both are rosso corsa and have Ferrari badges, and are signed by MS and RB. Pretty cool. | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 320 Registered: 4-2002 |
JimE, If you were to take Plano Parkway and go under the Tollway the street turns into International. You come up to a stop sign at which you take a left. The building sits on the left hand side of international, you cant't miss it (All glass up front with two flag poles) When I drove by yesterday, they had a white 550 in the showroom. | ||
| Jim E (Jimpo1)
Member Username: Jimpo1 Post Number: 932 Registered: 7-2001 |
Where is the new place? All I know is Plano, somewhere on Plano Parkway? | ||
| Marcus Mayeux (Mmayeux73)
Member Username: Mmayeux73 Post Number: 319 Registered: 4-2002 |
Evan, Went to FOD last week and talked to Mr. Risi (Luis-sp?-is he the son?) and turned in my resume, hopefully something will come up. I called yesterday and the receptionist said the shop will open Wednesday-she told me to talk to the service manager. I drove by, it looks beautiful! Anything I should say or do to help my chances? Any help would be much appreciated. -Best regards, Marcus | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 425 Registered: 7-2002 |
I talked to James Dunne yesterday and Classis does own the bld. He said Classic was going to use it to show the new Cooper Mini's as they have to have a seperate showroom. However, they didn't get the franchise so they are pissed. That used to be the original classic BMW dealership he said. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 735 Registered: 3-2001 |
Evan, do we all get free oil changes as part of the grand opening? | ||
| Evan Jones (Jonesn)
New member Username: Jonesn Post Number: 38 Registered: 8-2002 |
Mr Risi leases the building from Classic BMW, but they let them (me) do the repairs. That building is really falling apart, so anyone who wants it can get a great price, unless BMW is using it. FoD moves into the Plano location this weekend, finally. The Enzo shows up in a month or so. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 404 Registered: 7-2002 |
Whoa! $933K for that building! Usually rents are about 1% of value so the new leasee will probably be asked to pay $9K a month. Funk Dat! | ||
| Dave (Maranelloman)
Member Username: Maranelloman Post Number: 537 Registered: 1-2002 |
Carisi Inc is Risi's company. | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 727 Registered: 3-2001 |
Jim, just checked Dallas County Appraisal District.... here's your info: http://www.dallascad.org//DCADbpp.cfm?theKey=99P22733000000000&thecheck=0 Is this Ferrari of Houston address... as the owner? | ||
| BobD (Bobd)
Member Username: Bobd Post Number: 726 Registered: 3-2001 |
I believe the family that owns Classic BMW once owned the F dealership but sold it to Giuseppi (sp?)???? The FoD building is tired. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 402 Registered: 7-2002 |
Ah, that sounds vaguely familiar. I think Classic rents it to FoD. Might start there. | ||
| Rob Lay (Rob328gts)
Board Administrator Username: Rob328gts Post Number: 2628 Registered: 12-2000 |
I think I heard something with Classic BMW. Does Classic rent it to FOD? Are they selling it to Classic? Hmm, don't know. | ||
| Jim Schad (Jim_schad)
Member Username: Jim_schad Post Number: 400 Registered: 7-2002 |
Anyone know what happens to FoD's building when they move to new spot? Do they own it or lease it? Heard it was in shambles, but not sure. What is the guy's name who owns it? Mr. Ricci? I was toying with the idea of tire/wheel shop with tons of little accessories like exhausts and what not, but lots of memorabilia like stickers, badges, clothing, display cases etc. Basically all the stuff we like in Forza and other places. Not sure it would work on the memorabilia part as it eats up $$ to stock the things, but to keep some on hand would be cool and I would know where to get the other stuff and perhaps make a buck on the side. Seems you would have to cater to the ricer crowd a bit as ferrari/porsche crowd is relatively small so might not have volume to sustain business. Anyway I thought it might be cool to be int he old Ferrari shop as it is known by location and is right off central. Bet rent is pricey! Thoughts? |