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Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Post Number: 655
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Monday, October 27, 2003 - 3:58 am:   

The "healthy looking guy" is Guerino Bertocchi, Maserati's famous tester/technician.

It is generally regarded that Zagato screwed up Costin's design for the body on the Le Mans car. But in this picture, "Workmen have just finished assembling the aluminum body of the Maserati 4500. Happy with the result, they pose for the souvenir photo." Hey, who cares about winning? Upload
James Lee (Aventino)
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Post Number: 141
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 4:56 pm:   

Cool. This is the picture I saw about 20 years ago. Isn't the healthy looking guy on the right one of the Maserati brothers? Doesn't seem like, in any of the advertising I see for the 4200, that they use their illustrious history as much as they could.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Post Number: 264
Registered: 5-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 7:24 am:   

Already shortly after Le Mans 4501 had a different body. This is a pic some years after Le Mans with Ferrari writer Hans Tanner on the left.Upload
Thomas I (Wax)
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Post Number: 695
Registered: 7-2003
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:20 am:   

Drool
Matt Bradley (Ghostridr)
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Post Number: 136
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Sunday, October 26, 2003 - 12:03 am:   

If the pic of the star-flared headlight-area-car, is how it orginally looked in it's day, and the Pebble Beach is how it looks now, then I call that Blesphemy, otherwise incredible (not sure what I'm looking at).
James Lee (Aventino)
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Post Number: 137
Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 7:04 pm:   

Thanks Boudewijn, I didn't know it had gone through a complete restoration. Looks stunning.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Post Number: 262
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 9:54 am:   

Here is a pic of 4512 when it raced Le Mans in 1957 and was still 4501. The second is from Pebble this year where it stood after a complete restoration by the present owner Alfredo Brener.Upload
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James Lee (Aventino)
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Post Number: 135
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Posted on Saturday, October 25, 2003 - 8:46 am:   

Anyone got a picture of #4512 in Zagato bodywork? Man, that was beautiful.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 4:04 pm:   

You might be right James.
James Glickenhaus (Napolis)
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Post Number: 2925
Registered: 10-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:30 pm:   

Boudewijn
I bet that's where a birdcage would be. I bet a 450 would be 2-3.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Post Number: 258
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:27 pm:   

Andrew, 10 were made: #4501 through #4510, with chassisno's 4511 and 4512 assigned to engines only. #4501 was the Costin-Zagato car, later renumbered 4512. #4507 was heavily crashed in the Caracas GP of 1957 as well and was written off. So of the original 450's the Costin car included 9 survive. 10 years ago a 450 was sold for $1.1 million. I guess today they would go for $1-2.
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Post Number: 1782
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 1:56 pm:   

How much is one of those worth ? how many remaining ?
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Post Number: 257
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:20 pm:   

BTW the Behra car is #4503 again.
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:12 pm:   

My pleasure Jeff.
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:53 am:   

Excellent job, Boudewijn! It's like having a front row seat at every Italian Car Show when you post your pictures - thank you for sharing!
Boudewijn Berkhoff (Boudewijn)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:22 am:   

I will show you a pic of most of the chassisno's that is 4502, 4503, 4504, 4505, 4506, 4508, 4509, 4510 and 4511. The last one is a replica.Upload
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Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 10:14 am:   

The 450S driven by Jean Behra, winning the Swedish GP in August 1957. Upload
Andrew Menasce (Amenasce)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 6:39 am:   

this car is soo beautiful.
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Post Number: 644
Registered: 12-2002
Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 3:00 am:   

Thank you, Vincent! I have a room full of old books and magazines, I love digging up material like this, even though I should be asleep at this hour.
Vincent (Vincent348)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 1:43 am:   

Jeff,

you rule! when you're in Napa dinner is on me.


Vincent.
Jeff B. (Miltonian)
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Post Number: 642
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 1:41 am:   

Here is the famous ending of 450S #4503, Caracas GP, November 3, 1957. Driver Harry Schell survived with burns on his arms. Upload
Thomas I (Wax)
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Posted on Friday, October 24, 2003 - 12:55 am:   

Oh, my... that's motoring right along, isn't it?
Michael Bradley (Kafugelum308)
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Registered: 6-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 1:11 pm:   

Try
http://members.lycos.nl/alfaromeos/maserati13.html
SaF (S4f355)
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Post Number: 2
Registered: 10-2003
Posted on Thursday, October 23, 2003 - 8:52 am:   

ANYONE HAVE ANY PICS ON THE MASERATI 450S ? IF SO PLEASE POST THEM...

REGARDS
SAF

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