Author |
Message |
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
Junior Member Username: Jameel
Post Number: 90 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 08, 2003 - 10:23 pm: | |
I bet you in the old way of qualifying (last year), they did not use air filters. Why bother, you run (up to) 12 laps for qualifying and then the engine was rebuilt, before the race! |
Rob Schermerhorn (Rexrcr)
Member Username: Rexrcr
Post Number: 453 Registered: 11-2002
| Posted on Tuesday, April 01, 2003 - 8:55 am: | |
Hi guys, I have experience here too. Yes, all F1 cars use air filters. Many use K&N or similar fabric style. Ferrari has used both the woven fabric (K&N) and foam. A open mesh screen is sometimes used, though usually either supplemental of only for structural support. In spite of 2 hour to 5 hour rebuild schedules, they still require efficient filtration. |
Manu (Manu)
Member Username: Manu
Post Number: 678 Registered: 2-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 3:06 pm: | |
Mitch, I'm not sure you're right mate... GruppeM have developed a lot of their roadgoing technologies of the back of so-called F1 experience.. and I believe that excessive intake dirt in the engine could well upset oil temperatures which in a machine like a F1 car, could prove critical....... I *THINK* they DO... would be nice if someone could confirm... Bret is right - BMC are always talking about their 'F1' air filters. |
Mitch Alsup (Mitch_alsup)
Member Username: Mitch_alsup
Post Number: 436 Registered: 4-2002
| Posted on Monday, March 31, 2003 - 11:45 am: | |
F1 cars do not use air filters, and from as far back as 1960 they used 1/4" square steel mesh (0.005 wire) just to keep stones from being injested in the intake tracks. |
Andreas Forrer (Tifosi12)
Member Username: Tifosi12
Post Number: 684 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 2:26 pm: | |
I believe the side air intakes are for the oil and water coolers. The actual air intake for the engine is above the driver's helmet. Not totally sure on this, but I don't think they use any regular air filters (as that would inhibit the airflow and therefore decrease performance), but at least some kind of rough metal grid to prevent bigger objects from being sucked in. |
BretM (Bretm)
Advanced Member Username: Bretm
Post Number: 3310 Registered: 2-2001
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 2:18 pm: | |
I wondered about this too. That company BMC (something like that) that advertises in most of the Ferrari magazines (it's an Italian company) makes note in their ad that they supply the Ferrari racing team with their air filters for F1. That's the only time I've seen anything about it. The company makes K&N like filters for the 360, 550, etc. It seems that they could get away with filters though on the F1 cars... |
Matt (Matt_lamotte)
Member Username: Matt_lamotte
Post Number: 264 Registered: 10-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 2:07 pm: | |
I would imagine they have to have some type of filtering device. Whenever you see them pit on TV the guys reach up in the intake tracts and pull out grass and debris by the handfull. It has to have something to stop all that stuff. Probably a K&N filter......JK |
Jamil Jamal (Jameel)
Junior Member Username: Jameel
Post Number: 73 Registered: 9-2002
| Posted on Wednesday, March 26, 2003 - 12:27 pm: | |
I was thinking about this today, and since F1 engines are rebuilt after every race (and use to be after qualifying). Do they even bother with a air filter? |