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Yellow 288 GTO; how many exist??

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  1. PAUL500

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    Marcel, was that engine transverse mounted in the 308 hack? maybe that is the cause of the confusion.
     
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    The second one is a pic I recall Marcel posting a while ago, and did wonder if it was the same car that had the carbed 288 engine fitted, and clearly that one has a transverse engine
     
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    Two different cars with the b&w pic car having a narrower track front and rear. Also more modest fender flairs compared to the red car in the lower picture. The red car seems like a later development prototype with more aggressive design details.
    The b&w pic car could be the carburetor version but likely only Marcel could say...
    Great pictures!
     
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    The only differences between the 2 to ME is that one has the C pillar louvered and the other has a SCOOP. But then again its a pic of the opposite sides. But the wheels and the louvers on 1/4 panels behind the rear wheels are the same and the fenders are flared. And they sit pretty high on the back?
     
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    You are right on the flares. Transverse car(b&w) and longitudinal car(red)?
     
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    And back to the Carbs...

    On that Ferrari Hypercar book there's a quote. "Ferrari liked the Solex on his personal Renault 18 Turbo Sedan." Could that be the reason that the carbed F114 had the solex?
     
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    It is difficult to tell from the picture what configuration of the motor they are running. Though the car in the b&w pic seems to have extra lights in the front grill plus two horizontal openings in the front spoiler which later became GTO details.
    We need more views of the prototypes!
     
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    For the carbs I think on a more basic level it goes back to whatever was lying around.
    A person interviewed one of the Ferrari factory workers from the 1970's years ago. They asked why was a certain steering wheel used on this particular car. They answered simply whatever was in the bin; that is what they used. There was no big plan where this car gets a certain wheel or because that car is built for somewhere else it should get a different wheel. Just get the job done without a lot of thought about it.
     
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    #187 Marcel Massini, Oct 17, 2017
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    CORRECTION: I took this photo also 18 July 1983. NOT in September 1983.

    Marcel Massini
     
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    I would say it is quite clear the colour pics of the red car confirm its engine is transverse mounted, especially if its wheelbase is shorter than a final 288. The rear of the longitudinal box in a 288 is very prominent even with the extended wheelbase over the 308s.
     
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    Marcel thank you; this new picture we see from you with the rear view really hi lights how much wider the track is compared to a stock 308. Those rear tires look huge. Also the rear bumper has been sectioned out in the middle to mimic the look featured on the production GTO.
    Can you comment on the location of the motor in the prototype GTO you saw when visiting with Mr Swaters?
    I would have to think after seeing all those transverse mount V8 motors in the 308 GTB and 308 GT4 it would be a shock to see the motor with a new orientation for the larger GTO model!
     
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    Big wheels and wider track. ZF trans is half the size of the production GTO trans. Wonder if this is the 1st short wheel base proto with the ZF trans in longitudinal config?
     
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    From March 1984 some eight months later this prototype car body has the GTO styling characteristics now. There is one curious feature in that the front bumper is red not black. The rear bumper remains black. Prototype number 6?

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  19. Marcel Massini

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    That indentation is gone now, no longer on the car, also raised center section on engine lid, exhaust system and rear body panel. Plus 288 GTO script on right rear. All changed.

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    You’rerefer to the 47711 correct? They installed all the production stuff on it before they sold it?

    I was asking how many of those rear panels with the indentation for the liscense plate were made between the prototypes.

    The transmission without the “FERRARI” on the back cover. How many cars have that transmission?
     
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    #197 of2worlds, Oct 18, 2017
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    Could you get Classiche certification for this 288 GTO if they returned it to this prototype spec?
    Some of the 250 GTO models change spec to a different period in their history; why not a 288 GTO change to...
    The 250 GTO 3223GT looks nothing like it's 1962 Ferrari Press Conference specification now.
     
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    The car in the b&w picture from post #178 would appear to be the short wheelbase model with carbs and the KKK turbos of s/n 44725. Maybe this number matches what Marcel viewed...
     
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  23. Marcel Massini

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    That 288 didn't leave the factory in prototype form. No need to return it to prototype spec.
    As for the first 250 GTO built and all other Ferraris in general: an owner is free to do whatever he likes. Plus: many owners are not interested in a certification.

    Marcel Massini
     
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  24. PAUL500

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    Some of the proto panels came up for sale recently on a replica built by Norwood. I did wonder if someone planned to take one such original car back to that condition using them.

    Marcel seems to be avoiding the question regarding engine mounting location of the carbed version of the 288 engine ;):):D
     

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