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Vandalized 308 GTS QV for sale...

Discussion in '308/328' started by Andy 308GTB, Jan 27, 2017.

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  1. Andy 308GTB

    Andy 308GTB F1 Rookie
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    #1 Andy 308GTB, Jan 27, 2017
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  2. miketuason

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    Never seen this before, what a shame it's a Euro QV RHD too.
     
  3. Thomas Magnum

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    With a 328 rear bumper and diaper. :(
     
  4. energy88

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    The seller is really hyping the car with prose such as "Super Blue Chip Investment Potential," 'Very Rare," and "Extremely Rare" to nudge the bidding to the stated £100,000 implied value. Feel sorry for the owner. I'm surprised the vandals didn't break any glass.
     
  5. JV's89

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    Damn shame.
     
  6. Ferraridoc

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    Compomotive TS-16s, too, I think
     
  7. 308 milano

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    One would think that if you went to the effort to do such heavy damage you surely wouldn't pass up a front or rear glass. Strange..
     
  8. miketuason

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    Or 17"
     
  9. 308 milano

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    The more I look at this, this damage is very selective, as in I mean, The Vandals went out of their way to damage every panel that wasn't easily replaceable yet skip any glass, mirrors etc. Not enough so that the interior would be ruined if left outside yet enough to total the vehicle. Owning a body shop for many years, IMO smells of insurance Scam.
     
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  10. tbakowsky

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    Somebody got caught cheating..
     
  11. 308 milano

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    Now THAT make sense!
     
  12. piezo

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    It's 16", same proportion as my 16".
     
  13. piezo

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    The buyer better put the badges back to their original places and ditch the wrong rear valance and bumper at least.

    Still sad to see the damage...
     
  14. Aus_yz

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    Is this statement true only 233 made?

    THIS VERY RARE CLASSIC FERRARI ONLY 233 EVER PRODUCED IN RIGHT HAND DRIVE
     
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  15. tinterow

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    Vandalized? Absolute BS! Is it the insurance company selling it?
     
  16. andyww

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    They say the car is listed as Cat D. That means any investment potential is very limited on this car with that in its history.
     
  17. jaisharma

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    I too assume there must be an interesting back story. Not very far from me co-incidentally.
     
  18. 4rePhill

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    How is that BS? :confused:

    Looking at the dents, despite their depth there is very little paint damage, indicating to Me that whoever did the damage was more than likely wearing trainers at the time and kicked the panels in.

    It could be that the owner wanted money urgently and so decided to cash-in on the insurance value of the car by damaging the panels that could not be easily removed for repair to ensure it was a financial write-off.

    By the same token, the car could have been attacked by a yob or a drunk somewhere, and kicking in panels makes far less noise than smashing windows, reducing the chances of getting caught.

    Either way, the car has been vandalised!

    The original pictures in the advert are photographs of a computer screen showing the car on a breakers yard website, and it states on the drivers window: "Vandalised.......Starts and drives..........." - The people selling it have obviously bought it from an insurance company to sell on.

    Looking at their ebay history, they seem to specialise in buying finance repossessions and damaged/salvage cars (most likely from salvage auctions), and then sell them on to the public.

    The original registration number is B315 LFP and it was MOT'd up until October 9th 2016 with 77,061 miles on the clock.

    The car needs some TLC but it's not a total disaster. The "Cat D" insurance classification and the mileage are always going to knock its value, but to Me, that only makes it a more usable car.

    The 328 rear valance raises a couple of questions (such as has the car been rear ended in the past?, was a previous owner trying to make the car look newer than it really was?, or was it just a case of a previous owner preferring the 328 look?), but it doesn't look totally out of place and I could easily live with it for a while (much to the horror of the purists no doubt!).

    The (now damaged) colour-coded front bumper on the other hand would annoy Me and I'd put a black one back on it.

    It could be made into a very nice car again, but you'd have to get it for the right price, taking the cost of the bodywork repairs into account (It would be all too easy to spend too much and end up with it costing you more than a better condition car without the dodgy history).
     
  19. 4rePhill

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    Owning a Ferrari isn't always about investment potential!

    Despite the "Cat D" insurance rating, this could still be a nice, affordable, usable car for a genuine enthusiast who doesn't care about the investment potential and would want to keep the car forever and a day.
     
  20. 308 milano

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    I've seen Paintless Dent removal work miracles on a vehicle that I was certain needed the panels replaced. This Ferrari will still need to be painted but with almost zero filler if you go that route. If it was me, I would set aside $1500 and let them have at it.
     
  21. andyww

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    Absolutely. Just disputing the sellers claim "Super Blue Chip Investment Potential,".
     
  22. FiatRN

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    My friend's classic MB was once keyed. The police showed up at his house to take the report, and the first thing the officer said was "your girlfriend did this." Why did he think that? "Because every single panel is keyed,not just the sides. She is angry."

    The damage to this 308 doesn't look too bad. It is a shame that almost any damage can get these things totalled. Hopefully this ar will be repaired and live on.
     
  23. theunissenguido

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    The way the panels and front blinker are hit... with a light foot.

    Guido
     
  24. tinterow

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    Hi, Phill...my point exactly! My BS statement referred to legitimate vandalism...this car was damaged by the owner for the insurance... IMHO
     
  25. piezo

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    Yes according to the record by Maranello Concessionaires for UK RHD GTS QV. 74 for UK RHD GTB QV.
     

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