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My 360 Engine On fire Today

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  1. GrigioGuy

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    It does. I lost a pickup to an engine fire back in the day. It's simply that people don't make dramatic internet postings when it's a 93 Honda on fire.
     
  2. 2NA

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  3. 2000YELLOW360

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    I had a small fire in my 355. It cost about 40k to replace all the electrical wiring that might have been damaged, the belts, and the water pump. I suggest you get together with a dealer, have his service manager go through the damage, and then, and only then, deal with the adjuster. Heat can cause damage that doesn't show up for a while, and then you're out of luck if you didn't get the part replaced.


    Art
     
  4. wetpet

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    because it only happens to ferraris silly!
     
  5. No Doubt

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    Nice job on having and using your fire extinguisher. Great to learn that you are OK.
     
  6. PSk

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    Considering the extremely low volume of Ferraris the % that are lost to fires seems high to me.

    Every other car that catches fire has a design fault, ie. Ford Escorts had plastic fuel lines that aged, Jaguar Mk2 had stupid choke design, etc. ... surely Ferraris need to redesign their fuel feed or something?

    Does anybody know what causes them?, I know the old Ferraris burn because of old fuel lines failing (but they were original the concours people cried and cried until they had no tears left) but why the new(er) cars? Is it the electrical earth problems they have with the alloy chassised cars?
    Pete
     
  7. rbf41000

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    I think a lot it is to do with rear engine high performance fully enclosed (including the exhaust system) veicles.
    I may be wrong but it seems the front engined Ferraris dont catch fire so much.
    OK now for the slew of pictures of burned front engined Ferraris.

    Russell
     
  8. 2NA

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  9. Bowers

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    I have to agree it seems like there are more fires happenings in / on high end exotics, not just Ferraris. Hasn’t the new Lambo already had 4 claimed by fires? I personally got to see a Murciélago go up in flames about two months ago in front of Valley Fair mall just after coming off of the 280. There is simply two low of a percentage of these cars on the road for these types of incidentals happing as frequently as they do. Yes “regular cars” catch fire; I lost my beast a couple of years ago. Personally when I drop 120K + on a car and it catch's fire I will want some dam good answers.
     
  10. 62 250 GTO

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    I let a 330 go up and saved a 540.

    It all depends on the fire, sorry to hear about your car.
     
  11. wetpet

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    please enlighten us with the percent that are lost to fires....... didn't think so.
     
  12. No Doubt

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    I looked it up once and the insurance industry stats were something like 2% of all cars totaled were due to fire, but only 1% of Ferraris were so totaled...which seems counter-intuitive until you factor in that Ferraris aren't driven as many miles as most cars.

    You'd get a very unpretty percentage if you factored in Ferrari fires per mile driven.
     
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  13. jk0001

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    I had two cars that burnt, a VW BUG and a good ole Plymouth. When I was younger, I always drove a POS. Now I really appreciate the cars I have now.
     
  14. Horsefly

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    I've personally seen a minivan go up in flames in front of a strip mall. Also saw an aging Lincoln Continental MK4 turn into a bar-b-cue grill late one night. I know of a couple of other under-the-hood fires that were caught before they toasted the whole car.
     
  15. PSk

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    Thank you. Probably some of the reason is because they are NOT driven ...

    I've never had a car catch fire even after crashing a few, don't understand why it is treated by many as an accepted part of "cars".
    Pete
     
  16. wetpet

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    can i assume these are us stats? only covering maybe 40% of all ferraris? are you saying the # of miles driven is an important factor? wouldn't design issues and crash statistics be much more important? bottom line-no stats showing ferraris burn up more than any other car.
     
  17. djui5

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    haha!

    When he resells it he can put this as the title "This is one HOT car!"

    ;)

    Glad your car is ok, generally speaking!
     
  18. Bullfighter

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    Nothing to do with concours. FCA judging assumes normal wear/aged components are replaced. Maybe if you use Hello Kitty fuel lines you'll lose a point or two.

    Number of miles driven would have a strong correlation with the engine running. (We can assume cars sitting around in a garage aren't going to burn unless there's some external source of flame.)

    We know Ferraris don't get the annual mileage of Hondas -- it would be a stretch (to say the least) to assert the average 360 does half the mileage of the average Accord, so it is interesting that Ferraris catch fire half as often. That's a very sobering number.

    40 percent is many times the number of cars you'd need for a statistically valid sample.
     
  19. No Doubt

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    Ferraris don't burn up as often as the average car per year or per capita...but per mile driven is a different story. This shouldn't be surprising. We're driving high performance, gasoline burning, exotic beasts.

    When we are out driving, more of our time is at high revs, or on the track, or both. We push these cars harder than the average car is pushed.

    So we expect higher maintenance and more "track" incidents.

    Just be smart about it. Don't drive until all fuel smells/leaks are fixed. Use an automatic fire extinguisher in your engine bay (and a manual unit in the cockpit is recommended, too).

    A few common sense precautions mean that we can live fast without dying like Darwin Award contestants.
     
  20. wetpet

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    i'm not too worried about it. I figure i have at least a 99% chance of not losing my car to a fire. wish i had those odds on other things.
     
  21. amslb182

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    So you're going to buy a smoke damaged 360 thats had an engine fire when theyre hundreds more for sale?
     
  22. Suspence

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    I'm sorry to hear, best of luck...
     
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  25. Virulosity

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    such a shame. glad you are OK. let us know if they determine a root cause. alternator wire?
     

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