Most Important People in F1 all time Top 5

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  1. spirot

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    So the thread on best Ferrari driver made me think.. who are the top 5 most important / impactful, influential people in F1 - all time? submit your list... here is mine:

    1. Enzo Ferrari - created the myth, brand glamor and excitement of F-1 racing. ties the whole thing together
    2. Bernie Ecclestone - Created modern F-1 racing as we know it. kept if thriving through economic up and down times
    3. Jackie Stewart - household name around the world - did more for safety, and business influence in F- 1 made it a global / glamour sport
    4. Colin Chapman - Brought cutting edge engineering to F-1 started England as the home of high tech racing design
    5. Ayrton Senna - brought new age glamor - ruthlessness to the sport... also more myth and hype & spectacular driving
     
  2. tifosi12

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    agreed on the first four (Enzo, Bernie, Jackie and Colin)
    my #5 goes to Cosworth (Mike Costin and Keith Duckworth), I know that's technically two people but my point is that their engine created the movement of the garagistes in the sixties and seventies
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    That said, maybe top 5 is too narrow a scope. Maybe top ten opens the door a bit wider
     
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  3. Igor Ound

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    Ross Brawn?
     
  4. kizdan

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    An argument certainly could be made for Bruce McLaren and/or Frank Williams. Having built teams into Championship winners without money coming from production cars is quite impressive, and the teams still being contenders today adds to that.
     
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  5. subirg

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    Schumacher has to be in the top 5. He transformed the driver world, dominated and shaped entire teams around himself, rewrote history, and set records that may never be broken. His name will be forever etched in F1 and Ferrari history and never forgotten.

    And then there's Newey. Everyone knows he's the greatest car designer of the aero era. Without question and without equal. A legend of the sport.
     
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  6. spirot

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    I think they are both too new... and don't reach back far enough in the sport..... Schumacher's records are within 2 years of being beat with Hamilton... and 4 years with Vettel... Newey is great, but does not compare with Champman etc... he's very good at working the rules.
     
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  8. spirot

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    I'll go top 10... so my next 5 are:

    6. Sid Watkins - did more for safety than any other medical professional made F-1 ultra professional and safer than ever.
    7. Keith Duckworth - Cosworth engines were the backbone of F1 from 1967 to 1983ish....
    8. Jean Luc Lagardiere - He brought major sponsorship into F-1 & fostered the first driver talent search ( elf Winfield ) - Cevert, Pironi, Depallier, Prost, Alesi, Comas, many French drivers ....
    9. Gilles Villeneuve - pure spectacle, and mythology to the sport. horrible year when he died but he was the consummate racer
    10. John Hogan / Paddy McNally... sponsorship from Marlboro and track side sponsorship plans... they brought the MONEY into F-1 its s tie but I think Hogan set up F-1 as a viable platform for mulit nationals to invest in... McNally show them the most for the value ...
     
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    All 10 strong choices backed by incisive reasoning, Tom.
     
  10. Jeff Kennedy

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    Consider Henry Ford II. Funded the creation of Cosworth's engine and Hewlands gearbox. Altered the landscape of driver pay and cubic dollars into racing.

    For Chapman add as an additional reason his commercialization of the sport. SEE John Player Special as an entire livery.

    Marlboro Europe for their monster scale sponsorship of teams and drivers.
     
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    Cosworth existed prior to Henry Fords II 's involvement in motor racing, and it's Walter Hayes, the CEO of Ford UK who decided to bankroll Keith Duckworth to design the V8 DFV. Mike Hewland started his engine company in the 50s, and switched to gearbox production soon after, well before Ford came to the fore.

    Henry Ford, however, was behind the performance boost that put Ford prominently in stock car, Le Mans and Indianapolis. He also supported Shelby and his Cobras.
     
  13. scudF1

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    I agree with the top 5
     
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    I would add Fangio, he was the first mega name in f.1, and remained so...Senna, Gilles, Michael, carried on his legacy, but even today, fangio is a legendary name known by all.
     
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    1 - Bernard Ecclestone
    2 - Enzo Ferrari
    3 - Ron Dennis
    4 - Ayrton Senna
    5 - Michael Schumacher

    Honorable mentions: Collin Chapman, Jack Stewart, Juan-Manuel Fangio, Emerson Fittipaldi, Ken Tyrrel, Giancarlo Minardi, Frank Williams, the Cosworth guys. All others had merely supporting roles.
     
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    Yes I'd say that's a pretty good call, however the more you think about it the harder it gets with this subject though.
     
  18. subirg

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    True. The only certainties are Bernie and Enzo for the top 2 spots. Everyone else is a debate.
     
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    Agree.
     
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    If you don't say "Keith Duckworth" then it's a farce.

    I also like John Frankenheimer as one.

    everyone remembers Enzo but who were the nameless and faceless people who build Mercedes into a powerhouse in the late 50's. Unbelievable radical engineering and use of materials for the time, along with the introduction of aerodynamics.
     
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    Including a F1 with covered wheeles (gasp!).
     
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    Keith Duckworth and Walter Hayes of Ford merit inclusion. Without the DFV, F1 would have died a slow death in the 1970's. It was an affordable reliable powerplant--a concept alien to current F1 regulators.
     
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  23. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Senna is the GOAT, watching him race was like god driving a car, schumacher was not even close


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  24. spirot

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    I don't buy that... I Saw Senna race for years in person... he was fast, but also very dangerous... don't get me wrong - he's in the top 5 ever, but not the greatest. as for pure skill behind the wheel... Jim Clark, and Jackie Stewart... WAY better than Senna.
     
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  25. Natkingcolebasket69

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    At the end of the day its ur opinion but if you ask their peers Senna comes. They will tell you the truth:

    I respect your opinion but its like saying lebron james is better than Michael jordan...not happening.


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    Its biased but the Brazilian airlines AZUL painted one of their Embraer 195's just recently the color of.....who else?

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  27. Caracciola

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    I agree with that. Senna did some moves that completely discredited him in my eyes. Same for Schumacher, I would say.

    Jim Clark and Jackie Stewart are well above them in my esteem. They were also fast, but never did anything controversial; that's the hallmark of greatness to me.
     

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