I feel taken advantage of by a major sponsor, do I out them here on Ferrari Chat??

You don't have a lot of posts so it was easy to see where you got your car. I never thought of that place as a service center too, were they always such? Anyways back to your issue. Seems like you have a mechanic getting pretty deep into your car that is able to "see" areas that should have previously been addressed right?

I am guessing that you have some paperwork from the last place that shows the work they did.

Is the new mechanic taking pictures for you and saving parts that you can use to communicate the issue to the first party?

I might be tempted to present some of this current proof of a shoddy repair to the first place and see what they have to say.

Maybe they fired the salesman that you worked with for the very same thing and will want to make it up to you with some deal on future service? Cant hurt to ask.

There is also the possibility of infighting between competing service indys. Did this cross your mind? You don't want to be a stooge for anyone either. You say you're not really a car person which is a tough place to operate from with "vintage" exotics.

 

difficult to understand your post but it sounds like the problems aren't out of the ordinary for a Ferrari car, esp one that's > 15-year-old, for the duration of ownership and mileage.

 

Let me make sure I get the facts correct:
1) You bought it with no PPI
2) You have driven it over 6,000 miles since you bought it
3) 3 years have gone by since you bought it
4) And you haven't communicated with the selling dealer since you bought it

Uh, sorry. Outing the dealer at this point isn't prudent behavior. You might not want to hear it but the truth is you bought it, didn't inspect it, and you drove it quite a bit over a 3 year time period.
I really am sorry to hear you're unhappy, I really am; nobody wants anyone in this sport to be displeased with the experience. However, a Ferrari is an expensive toy, and make no mistake toys cost. You're getting a lesson about that.

 

I think he is referring to the fact that this big problem was known by the seller and was not disclosed and could have been attended too earlier. The fact that it wasn't disclosed at his 6,000 mile mark and caused major damage is the issue. It's a slippery slope, there is two sides to the story. Was there a miscommunication on both sides?
The issue is ... Would of a PPi found this problem? If yes, and the dealer told him there was no need for a PPi , then this is problem number 1. Always get a PPi regardless of who says not to.

 

Its a car. They break.

It's a 15 year old car. They break a lot.

Personally, I think you're better off working with them than "outing them". If you want revenge, Fchat normally isn't to sympathetic.

 

I don't think the dealer owes you anything.

 

I can find fault with any "perfect" used Ferrari. You bought a used car. Could you have done more? Yes. Could someone else do more? Yes. Would someone else do differently? sure. Who's responsible? This is a 1st world problem we mostly bring on ourselves.

 

Hi Dave,

Forgive me for asking for clarification, but just trying to follow the situation. Please correct me if I am wrong with the following assumptions based on your posts.

You bought the car from them "as-is" with no warranty and no PPI because they said they had done a PPI and repairs on issues they found?

After you had bought it, you had a $4,000 transmission mount problem occur about three years later caused by some defect that could easily have been identified with any reasonable PPI before you bought it?

So your main point of contention is that the "PPI" they did (or did not do) 3 years ago did not catch this defect that caused the transmission mount issue?

Thanks for your reply in advance.

 

That was the first thing I looked up-probably most folks that read this did!

It's already been said here but the PPI is a must with any these. That said, if a little love from these guys would help to keep you happy I say give them a shot at smoothing things over. Send one of their top execs a solid email and tell him/her how you feel. How much is a happy Fcar customer worth these days?! I've never worked with these guys but you may surprised how they may try and 'make it right'

 

Thank You Dave for your response, please bear with me. I just want to clarify:

The car had a transmission issue from the start that cost you 4K (the seller didn't want to cover it). - could you disclose what the specific issue was? The reason I ask is the issue itself may have been reasonably missed by any PPI. Unless, you disclose the actual issue - hard for the community to make a call.

Now 3 years later you discovered transmission mount issues that are related to this early 4K issue?

Again, thanks for your reply in advance.

Cheers

 

FIFY

 

This is the same car you're trying to sell without disclosing all these issues it has, right?

http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/ferraris/522941-2001-ferrari-360-spider-f1-grey-%2478k.html

I dunno, seems like you were trying to do the same thing to someone else that the dealer did to you.

D

 

Zing!

 

Thanks Dave for your clarifications.

You state you experienced shifting issues during the test drive, and yet still bought the car AS-IS.

What more needs to be said?

 

yes

 

Nothing, IMO.

If there were any concerns, next step would be PPI. Or roll the dice.

3 years and 6k miles later? Not much to be done at this point but fix it and move on.

 

I agree with James. The 360 F1 is an amazing car. Fix whatever needs to be sorted and enjoy the car, Dave.

If time/money won't allow for that - sell at market price and buy a Porsche.