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Discussion in 'F12/812' started by Randy, Sep 15, 2014.

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  1. dcmetro

    dcmetro F1 Veteran

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  2. omniman

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    This is my next one. hoping it happens.
     
  3. freshmeat

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    Who else was disappointed Luca was a no show. Very telling.
     
  4. SVCalifornia

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    Yeah, evidently he got booted off the podium as he quit so Sergio stepped in himself... Now it is Luca who??

    SV
     
  5. VIZSLA

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    I can't wait for his book.
     
  6. mikelfrance

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    #206 mikelfrance, Oct 14, 2014
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    I understand where Ferrari got the inspiration for this car's front. It's a direct relationship to what it thinks about people who would want to pay 2.5 million for it.
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  7. mikelfrance

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    Why would he want to? Fiat tossed him out. There's nothing to say.
     
  8. M-individual

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    #208 M-individual, Oct 14, 2014
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    They've done this before on the 16M from Valentino Rossi. I actually like it better on the 16M simply because it uses two main and very different colors. Too many colors and shapes in the F60A but that's just my opinion. Looks overdone. TRS still is my favorite.
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  9. crinoid

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    Interesting! I have not seen this before. Thank you for sharing, M-Individual. Valentino's 16M looks great. Were you able to attend the gala?
     
  10. [gTr]

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    I am surprised they didn't add the Speciale fin to it....
     
  11. patekswiss

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    The only reason I know with certainty is that they want it and that they value it more than having the $2.5MM in the bank, or invested in something, or used to buy something else. That's all we can know for sure.

    As to why they want it, who knows? I guess the same reason someone wants any work of art. Car guys tend to think of performance. But you can get similar performance out of a Porsche or a McLaren. McLarens are high tech, highly engineered, cool looking -- but does anyone for a moment think they will ever be beautiful and passionate in the heartbreaking way a Ferrari can be? No way. I think the extra thing that Ferrari adds is art. I think its the same reason you would spend a million or two (or whatever they get) for a Singer 911. Or hundreds of thousands for a timepiece by, say, Halter or Voutilainen. Because you know that somewhere there is some obsessive crazy person making that thing for no good reason other than its cool and beautiful. The insanity of the object is part of its appeal, and the act of buying it allows the buyer a bit of self-expression.

    Or maybe not! :)
     
  12. Caeruleus11

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    I completely agree with you. As to LDM not going- I think events developed after the invitation went out....
     
  13. zjpj

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    If you're not buying it, why does anyone care what it costs? To the people who bought it, obviously it was worth it. People worry too much about other people's checkbooks.
     
  14. VIZSLA

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    While I fully agree with that last bit I think that its relevant to Ferrari's view of the market and their place in it.
     
  15. mgent

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    I'm not sure it says much about the F view of the market or their place, while doing this they also make and sell thousands of Cali's to a lower price market then any of their other cars...

    'Value' to collectors is very different than it is to non-collectors... There are specific things many collectors look for and enjoy, and they look at value in exclusivity (who it is offered to), rarity (how many were produced), future gains (financial and access), portfolio (how does it fit in their collection), etc... This is true for art, watches, cars, etc... At one point my watch collection was worth a good bit more than my cars, but that wasn't a concern as there were specific pieces I wanted and bought when I could...

    Taking a guess at who is buying the 10 cars, assuming all North America based, I think you could probably look at the cars in the parade and come up with a good list of the names, adding in a few others... These buyers have car collections likely in excess of $50M? maybe even higher? The $2M price tag isn't a concern to have 1 of 10, probably not even thought about twice...
     
  16. PhilNotHill

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    the date for him to resign was right after the California rally. Then he does not show.

    Was this an emotional decision?
     
  17. NürScud

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    What book?? Sounds interesting. Any info?
     
  18. VIZSLA

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    Just speculating. Everyone seems to write one these days.
     
  19. roma1280

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    could be risky to arrange a parade of those cars, might find out there are more than 10 if recent "limited runs" are anything to go by ..:)
     
  20. M-individual

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    You are welcome. Wasn't at the gala as I'm not located in the US but in Europe.

    :)
     
  21. Caeruleus11

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    My guess is yes. I think his last day at Ferrari SpA was before this though.
     
  22. mgent

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    Solid point. Even if it is 1 of 20 though, it still holds true.... Now if they make 200 of them? That's a different story, but I imagine they don't want to piss off (and get sued by) their largest 10 collectors either...
     
  23. Maggio23

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    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ALbPWtoXwE]HUBLOT BIG BANG FERRARI USA 60TH ANNIVERSARY - YouTube[/ame]
     
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  25. NürScud

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    On the other hand the watch looks fantastic in comparison with the car!
     

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