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  1. boxerman

    boxerman F1 World Champ
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    Anybody here ever drive a F5000 car?
     
  2. GTS Bruce

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    I wish. At their time they were almost as fast as then current F1 cars. Far less expensive and far more reliable.Also just as likely o get you killed. GTS Bruce
     
  3. WILLIAM H

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    I heard a Pro who used to drive them back in 70s was offered to race one at vintage race.

    Had stickier tires, same weak suspension parts, minimal safety gear, huge HP.

    He passed on the offer LOL
     
  4. CornersWell

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    Friend of mine owned and vintage raced Brian Redman's F5000 (Lola T332 HU0037).

    Can find it here... Lola

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  5. spicedriver

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    I drove a center seat Can-Am car, which is about the same thing.

    Interesting series. Some early F5000 cars started out as F1, and Indycars. And some of the center seat Can-Am cars were F5000 and Indycars with small block Chevys + added fenders. And there were a couple that ran the Cosworth DFV F1 motor. Add the under 2 liter Hart, and you have an interesting mix of cars all running together. IIRC, the Cosworth was not beating the Chevys.
     
  6. CornersWell

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    Good old-school technology. Not complicated. Tube frame with riveted aluminum panels. Big horsepower motor. Basic ground effects. Handles predictably.

    CW
     
  7. boxerman

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    Somehow the Mclaren M10B keeps on popping up in my brain.
     
  8. spicedriver

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    Looks like the best placing for an F1 engined car was 7th in this race. Some familiar names. This is a great site for info on the old races.

    Riverside, 3 Oct 1982 « Single-seater Can-Am « OldRacingCars.com
     
  9. ProCoach

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    The Lola T332 is a wonderful car to drive. Other cars, like the McRae GM-1, are pretty nice to drive, too. My favorite early car is the Surtees, the TS-8 drives really well.
     
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    One of our clients (25 years ago) had Bobby Rahal's Lola in our shop for a while. Neat, old-school piece, would have been quite an experience to drive, but never got the chance.
    Don't know if Rahal, or our client added it inside the cockpit, but there was a script that read "What Lola Wants, Lola Gets".
     
  13. ProCoach

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    In the top picture is McLaren principal Zak Brown at the head of the line in the Viceroy car.
     
  14. wiley355

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    Just interviewed on the Australian GP grid.
     
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  16. spicedriver

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    Nice pass !
     
  17. Nembo1777

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    When I was racing in Formula Ford, Formula Renault in the UK 1987-89 during test days there would be a mixed bag of cars and many times there would be one or two F5000's including one well known chap whose name I can't recall, they sounded wonderful. In the twistiest bits we would actually be more agile, they were like a bus in comparison but in fast curves or straights you had to keep an eye on your mirrors:)

    MS
     
  18. boxerman

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    What does it take to run one of the F5000 cars these days. Whats the real maintanance. Could one run say 5 days between any heavy work?
     
  19. JWeiss

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    Not surprising, what with those skinny little tires in the rear.
     
  20. ProCoach

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    Hah! When the width of the rear wheel (16") is LARGER than the diameter (15"), there's not much more you can do...
     
  21. Mel Spillman

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  22. BoulderFCar

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    Very cool. I looked pretty seriously at a McKee that had a low HP small block.

    What power were you using and how did the car hold up once your rebuilt it. They looked very fragile to me.
     
  23. What year was the McKee? Any history on it, like who had it previously' if it ran pro, etc.?
    I didn't know there 5 litre big blocks. If so, was the car designed around it?

    I never got to any FA/F5000 or new CanAm races and just have never been up close to any of the cars. 'Hadn't given it a thought but now that it comes up, a new mission is on the agenda.... ;)
     
  24. spicedriver

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    F5000 and the center seat (new) Can-Am were small blocks. The original Can-Am series cars were big blocks. Center seat Can-Am are literally F5000 cars with added bodywork.

    Big block Can-Am cars at Long Beach:

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=et7CJMjT-Pc


    Funny how current Indycars are starting to look like the old center seat Can-Am, with all the new added bodywork.
     

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