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  1. moretti

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    Bobby, are you trying to get to 50,000 posts with 50,000 words ??
     
  2. Modeler

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    The final entry list for the 2009 F1 world championship is as follows:

    1. Lewis Hamilton Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren-Mercedes
    2. Heikki Kovalainen Vodafone McLaren Mercedes McLaren-Mercedes

    3. Felipe Massa Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Ferrari-Ferrari
    4. Kimi Raikkonen Scuderia Ferrari Marlboro Ferrari-Ferrari

    5. Robert Kubica BMW Sauber F1 Team BMW-Sauber
    6. Nick Heidfeld BMW Sauber F1 Team BMW-Sauber

    7. Fernando Alonso ING Renault F1 Team Renault-Renault
    8. Nelson Piquet Jr ING Renault F1 Team Renault-Renault

    9. Jarno Trulli Panasonic Toyota Racing Toyota-Toyota
    10. Timo Glock Panasonic Toyota Racing Toyota-Toyota

    11. Sébastien Bourdais Scuderia Toro Rosso STR-Ferrari
    12. Sébastien Buemi Scuderia Toro Rosso STR-Ferrari

    14. Mark Webber Red Bull Racing RBR-Renault
    15. Sebastian Vettel Red Bull Racing RBR-Renault

    16. Nico Rosberg AT&T Williams Williams-Toyota
    17. Kazuki Nakajima AT&T Williams Williams-Toyota

    18. Adrian Sutil Force India F1 Team Force India-Mercedes,/b>
    19. Giancarlo Fisichella Force India F1 Team Force India-Mercedes,/b>

    20. Jenson Button Brawn GP Formula One Team Brawn-Mercedes
    21. Rubens Barrichello Brawn GP Formula One Team Brawn-Mercedes

    Brawn misses out on Honda's numbers which go to Force India. Brawn is officialy a new entrant so last numbers this year.
    Keen eye'd tifosi will note the switch in F-car numbers. The FIA confirmed that it had accepted requests from Ferrari and Scuderia Toro Rosso to swap the car numbers of Felipe Massa and Kimi Raikkonen and Sebastien Bourdais and Sebastien Buemi respectively!
    Luca di' making a point? A little bit of Enzo style driver motivation, perhaps?


    Only after the race and only if Brawn win, imho.
    The others are rushing to reshape their gearbox end pieces and rear diffusers. It'll take 3 to 4 races to do that.
    Only if one of the three, particularly Brawn because of their testing speed, looks likely to build a points buffer are they likely to protest I believe.
    lets see how many finishers the race has I think. Then maybe the protest or not.
     
  3. b27

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    You call them words. Most of them aren't in the Oxford Dictionary. ;)
     
  4. Arvin Grajau

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    lol
     
  5. Aircon

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    Michael Schumacher is a member of the Ferrari race team for this weekend's 2009 season opener in Australia.

    The German newspaper Bild reported that the retired seven time world champion, still an advisor to the Maranello-based team, has confirmed his attendance not only in Melbourne but also for Malaysia a week later.

    The 40-year-old has attended several races as advisor to the Scuderia since he stopped competing, but this will be his first season opener since he contested the first race of 2006.

    "In the last two years it was not so important to have Michael in the pits," the German's long-time manager Willi Weber explained.



    "Now, however, with the many rule changes, Michael can help the engineers to better understand the car.”

    "It is in this area that Michael's experience is extremely important," Weber added.

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  6. Aircon

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    Australia's most recent world champion has slammed the organisers of the Melbourne race.

    Alan Jones, who won Williams' first title in 1980, said he is not invited to the Australian Grand Prix by his native country.

    "I write to Bernie Ecclestone and get a ticket issued from Britain. It seems he is more inclined to do things for you than home-grown folk," the 62-year-old, who heads the Australian A1GP team, told the Melbourne newspaper Herald Sun.

    Jones further criticised the Australian Grand Prix Corporation (AGPC) for overlooking the 50th anniversary of the first Formula One championship won by an Australian driver.

    Sir Jack Brabham, now 82, won his first of three titles in 1959. He and Jones are the only Australian world champions.

    "He is an icon and a national treasure, and to overlook him in that fashion is pathetic," Jones said.



    Brabham has turned down his invitation to attend this weekend's event, claiming it was only made after a PR company working with his son David approached the AGPC.

    "The fact is, they wouldn't have issued an invitation if they hadn't been prodded and they certainly wouldn't have done anything for the 50th anniversary," Brabham's wife Margaret said.

    To Jones' criticisms, AGPC chairman Ron Walker replied: "I am not going to respond to Alan Jones' gripes about the Grand Prix."

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  7. Horse

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    Unbelievably pathetic!!!

    What is wrong with them???

    Nobody will ever do what Jack did again.
     
  8. moretti

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    pathetic doesn't begin to explain it Horse !!!!

    these wankers will NEVER achieve what Jack did and have contributed NOTHING to the sport but suck it dry for their benefit .... arseholes the lot of them !!

    Jack is a lovely guy, attends many events and is gracious beyond the expected with his time.

    Jack and Jonesy should be the first invited to these events and it should be a given that they are invited with the red carpet rolled out seeing as they are the only Aussie F1 champs and likely to be for some time.


    To be the ONLY person to win a F1GP in his OWN car is beyond comprehension in today's stab-them-in-the-back F1 world

    Oh well, I suppose it's money first, respect a distant second
     
  9. GTRMagic

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    Hey Mr Dee Jay....
    Wasnt Mr Jones on the AGPC board at one point??

    Imagining bridges and burning somewhere.........
     
  10. Aircon

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    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/spo...cle5971075.ece

    Matthew Syed

    With Jenson Button setting the pace during testing in Spain this month and Lewis Hamilton floundering in what seems to be an uncompetitive McLaren Mercedes, Formula One fans could be about to witness the most dramatic role reversal since Dustin Hoffman donned a wig in Tootsie.

    The raft of rule changes brought in over the winter have caused what could amount to a spectacular shift in the balance of power in the paddock. Brawn GP, who have risen in spectacular fashion from the ashes of Honda, are looking like genuine contenders, with all manner of regulation-stretching innovations in design, while McLaren are struggling so badly that they took the unusual decision publicly to send out cars with paint on the side to see how the aerodynamics were working.

    Even Martin Whitmarsh, who has taken over from the formidable Ron Dennis as team principal at McLaren, was forced to admit that the early part of the season could prove troublesome. “A shortfall has been identified that we are working hard to resolve,” he said. “The MP4-24 is certainly not quick enough yet, and certainly not by our team's extremely high standards.”

    The psychology is intriguing. Hamilton, for all his talent and ambition, has been the beneficiary of unprecedented opportunities since arriving in Formula One, having had access to arguably the best all-round car in each of his first two seasons. He capitalised - just - last year, but aficionados have long wondered whether the youngster would be able to cope if forced to slum it in a mediocre drive, with his competitors getting all the limelight. They may be about to find out.

    The problem for McLaren is that getting their car up to speed has become appreciably more difficult now that testing has been banned outside race weekends, and with teams restricted to wind tunnels of 60 per cent scale and limitations on the use of computer modelling. Even Hamilton, who crashed in testing in Barcelona and had problems coming to terms with the car, admitted to the difficulties, although he gave them a positive spin. “At the moment, this year's car is a little behind the rest in terms of development, but I'm absolutely confident we will get stronger and grow as the year progresses,” he said.

    As for Button, the competitiveness of his BGP 001 car represents an opportunity and a career-defining challenge. He has always maintained that he has been the victim of a cruel set of circumstances since his move to BAR in 2003, rarely finding anything approaching a title-winning vehicle except in 2004, when he drove with some style to third place in the championship. Now he must prove he has the nerve, the steel and the ambition to do justice to a car that seems to match his talent.

    Perhaps the most intriguing question of all is how the British public may react to a possible realignment in the pecking order between the nation's foremost drivers. After Hamilton's championship-clinching drive in Brazil - arguably the most dramatic sporting moment of 2008 - Radio 5 Live was on the receiving end of hundreds of phone calls denouncing the new champion. Much of the negativity focused on his moving abroad to avoid British taxes, but there has always been a suspicion that he has had it too easy. Having to drag an underperforming car to the front of the grid could be the making of the 24-year-old, consummating his relationship with an agnostic public.

    As for Button, he has never quite managed to shake off his (rather unfair) image as a playboy with too much money, too much glamour and insufficient cutting edge. He has had things far too cushy, it is whispered, living like a prince in the gilded environs of Monaco even though he has won only one race in 155 attempts.

    This, then, could be the season when Button convinces the doubters and proves, once and for all, that he has the mettle to go with his dimples and foreign bank accounts.

    The FIA must be congratulated for its rule changes. It is not just that it has given the teams their most radical shake-up in years, shifting the tectonic plates in a way that has set tongues wagging across the motor-racing world; it has also attempted to get to grips with the sport's perennial problem - the processional nature of the races in anything other than wet conditions. As of last season, a performance advantage of two seconds per lap was required to pass another car. Now, on account of enforced changes to the rear wings and front, it is said to be down to half that.

    Of course, this would not be Formula One without controversy and allegations are already beginning to fly in what has become known as "diffuser-gate". The diffuser system organises the airflow at the back of the car and some are complaining that Brawn GP's system breaches the new regulations. “You can make a very good case for saying that it's legal and a very good case for saying that it's illegal,” Max Mosley, the president of the FIA, said. “I think the thing will probably come to some sort of a head in Australia [with the season-opening grand prix in Melbourne on Sunday] and then that will go to our Court of Appeal and be hammered out.”

    Whatever happens, it seems that we are in for some ride this season: Hamilton driving in a below-par car, Button back in the limelight, at least for the first few races, and, fingers crossed, the thrills and spills of overtaking. Oh, and Fleetwood Mac's The Chain kicking off the BBC's coverage.

    After a tricky winter when the credit crunch looked set to bring the sport to its knees, Formula One is back with a vengeance.
     
  11. Nintendo64

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    AMEN!

    But which people?

    Brawn smashed it, raced fast out of the blocks, won multiple races, Redbull/Seb, came up to speed hard, but alas was just a tad too late, suffer in ya'jokes haonda!

    ANYWAY, i am still annoyed and want something done about 2008.

    We, Ferrari were robbed, as in the year previous, ie Singapore 2008, Renault decided to drive Jnr, into the wall and gift Alonso the win, nobody would have known, but they boned Jnr, Nelson and he talked

    Alonso and Renault should have been thrown out of the sport, and all the points removed from them, Massa lost the Championship by 1 point, this was out year, Lewis had no right to claiming the Championship that year, Ferrari should have won it fair and square

    FIA are French crooks, in bed with French Renault [more crooks], never trust a race that eat frogs, FFS they butcher a cow, leave the meat and just eat all the offal??

    The whole F1t stinks, Enzo would have stepped in and not let this happen

    Just saying.....

    Next we will discuss 1976, robbed again
     
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