Advice on F12

There is a pilot sport 4 now, I don't know if they make in in F12 OEM size, the sport cup 2 would be the ideal (not as good in wet - which doesn't matter for me) but they definitely don't come in OEM size you have to move up to wider rear.

So far I can say I'm more than pleased with my MPSS which I've put 6000 km on since last Aug when I chucked P0's in bin

 

I'll PM you a pic of tyre as soon as I leave the house later

 

The recommended Michelin PSS for the F12 are Ferrari specified (K2):
front 255/35 R20 97ZR(Y) XL K2
rear 315/35 R20 110ZR(Y) XL K2

By the way the future tyre to look at is the Pilot Sport 4S and NOT the Pilot Sport 4 (the 4S has just been released and does not have all dimensions available yet, while the 4 is an older generation and is a different range targetting sports cars rather than supercars - a really confusing naming from Michelin).

 

Thanks for clarifying I just know there is a 4 in it somewhere.....lol

 

Mario, I have the MPSS 'K2' on my F12b. I can't fault them, but I would definitely look into the 4S if you can wait for availability as surely will be even better.

 

Does this version 4s come in F12B OEM size?

 

I haven't checked as my tyres are new but I would of thought it won't be too long especially is the 812 uses them, assuming they are the same size tyre?

 

The PS4S exists in the correct sizes/loads for the F12b but not as Ferrari homologated.
Front size is generic and rear size is Porsche homologation (N0).
Specific manufacturer homologations are typically only impacting the compound (usually softer) but I do not know what would be the consequence of mixing regular front with Porsche rear.

 

I am sure Michelin will get to making these tires in the Ferrari size and homologation. It's more a question of time. If you have to decide today, I would go with the correct K2 MPSS. If you have time, then you have something extra for which to look forward.

 

I look forward to you gents feedback on these new shoes.....

I do believe that the F12B and 812 don't run same tyre sizes - 4WS therefore I believe they can get away with wider shoes up front......someone more technically briefed than I needs to chime in on this

 

F12's already rusting.

 

Any updates and thoughts on your F12, Mario, after your first track date?
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Wider front tires will make an f12 slide a bit more but that's it, to be honest, the extra grip might be enough to neutralize. Now wider tires on oem f12 wheels, that I don't know, don't know the specs of the wheels.
To be honest, the rws or passo corto introduction because of the wider front tires, sounds more like an excuse to add it, than a necessity.

 

Mario...Whoa, drifting along the track sounds scary! Am sorry the weather did not cooperate. The rest sounds great. That plate is a work of art!
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Lovely plate! Is the shield edible?

 

Mario, I'm glad you didn't damage yourself nor the car and you had fun in the process! Yes, I think with the wet conditions & mega power car can = tricky and you used good judgment. And your car looks fantastic out there with his family.

 

Way to go Mario getting the beast out on the track !!!! Too bad about the slick conditions...still, it must of been a blast...Thanks for sharing your experience. I think everyone who owns an F12 should take it out for at least one track day to get closer to feeling the awesome capabilities of this car...something that can't be done on the street.

 

I agree Chris. Yes Mario you are right to always drive with a zone of safety. I am just back from driving in the Puglia region where the roads nearest to the water have a fine layer of dust and the first time I decided to have a little fun with the car, well, it sure got my attention! Fortunately, the further inland we went, the less dust on the roads and also the more the roads are used the less dust. It amazes me how much better (in general) the drivers over there are than the drivers in my area (again, generalization).