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Why was the Scuderia not more successful in 2005?

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Why was the 2005 F1 Ferrari not more successful?

  1. Designer Aldo Costa took over from Rory Byrne.

  2. Jean Todt got busy dealing with the factory cars.

  3. Bernie asked the Scuderia to take a hiatus.

  4. The FIA changed the rules to hurt Ferrari.

  5. The Bridgestone tires just aren't as good as Michelins.

  6. Michael Schumacher had some less than stellar performances.

  7. The whole race team got complacent by all the titles.

  8. The race team needs a blood refresh.

  9. It was just natural, another F1 cycle completed.

  10. The diffuser design caused aero problems.

  11. Other

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  1. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Pick your reasons please. This is multiple choice because I believe there was more than one reason, so choose all you like. Be advised that this is a public poll.
     
  2. senna21

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    They just got the car all wrong. I'd originally thought is was the tires but, when Toyota began testing with the Bridgestones they were surprised at how good they were. They also had attributed the poor performance of last year's Ferrari to the tires. Evidently it was more the car than anything else.

    It happens. You can't be right all the time and you can't get it right all the time. I think most Ferrari fans have just been spoiled by the recent success. I say recent because I've been pulling for the team since 1984 and in comparison last year wasn't that bad. They'll be back.

    It may have been some shifts in management that could have caused some disruptions as some others have said here in the Racing forum. Usually it's a combination of factors. I don't think we'll be able to point to one specific one. Even MS has said he wasn't up to the task last year as he had in years past. Over the past six years Ferrari have won as a team and I think this last year they lost as a team. If you take Indy out of it Ferrari came in fourth place.

    They didn’t build a bad car last year, it’s just that others built a better one.
     
  3. Texas Forever

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    Thanks. It will be interesting to see how this turns out.

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  4. Gilles27

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    I think it had to do with Jean Todt gettin' busy, but in another way:)
     
  5. SrfCity

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    Maybe they just blew it initially and they had to make do with current race budgets when it really required that they spend a lot more to catch up in order to win. Either that or they just took a dive :)
     
  6. joker57676

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    I think the team as a whole just dropped the ball. It was sad to see them so powerful the year before and then basically running mid pack most of the time. The tires most likely had a good amount to do with it, but as a whole I just don't think the car was in the same league as McLaren or Renault.

    Mark
     
  7. Whisky

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    Yeah, but they absolutely DOMINATED the USGP at Indy !
     
  8. jssans

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    2004 was a faster season than 2005 except the dominate time put in by Schumi at the USGP, ha. What ever rules F1 changed was intentionally aimed at Ferrari and also dragged the overall winning times down as well. Can't really blame F1 for going after Ferrari after the 2004 season of domination.
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  9. b-mak

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    Too many fans beating a dead horse.
     
  10. MS250

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    Listen,

    It was getting boring, it was time for a small change to bring back some fans.

    I think the sf will be in fine form, but dont be so sure they will win again this year.
     
  11. Remy Zero

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    i voted aldo costa, BS tires, and the diffuser
     
  12. SPEEDCORE

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    True tifosi know the reasons...

    Lets pretend last year next happened, I am.
     
  13. racerx3317

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    They all got it wrong, period. the team messed up, bridgestone messed up and even MS admitted he wasn't in top shape. Complacency and lost focus are to blame.
     
  14. Remy Zero

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    in a way, it's good for the scuderia to lose terribly last season. it kinda gives them the wake up call they need. look at 2003. they nearly lost it and look how they destroyed the rest in 2004 with a briliant comeback. i wish this year.....
     
  15. bill365

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    IMHO, the main reason was the Bridgestone tires, but the blame lies with FIA for the addle-brained tire rules.

    Whether a similar portion of responsibility can be laid at Bridgestone's doorstep or not, the tires they brought to race with were designed and constructed with a larger margin of safety than speed.

    The Michelins were frequently on the ragged edge of catastrophic failure, but they were fast. Which is what produced the horrendous situation at the USGP and I feel all concerned were absolutely correct in not altering the track to accomodate the Michelins' lack of ability to withstand the rigors of racing.

    The rules precipitated this response from the tire manufacturers, and it was a situation that should have never been. FIA put the safety of the drivers at high risk, safety is the main responibility of the governing body.

    Regards,
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