I just received a letter and a brochure announce the "Ferrari Classiche" as a specific division. Did anyone else get this? In particular, the letter stresses the value of obaining a Certification of Authenticity, and gladly informs that restoration work, service and maintainence can be carried out by Ferrari.
Not sure I'd want to trust the maintenance on my 40-year-old beauty to the same guy that knows how to play video games on an Enzo's ECU.
i recieved the same letter. it states that any car over 25 years is eligable. does this mean that we will be able to get "unobtainium" parts? honestly, what difference would a certificate of aunthenticty make to the value of my or any other car? i have yet to be fooled by a fake 308 or dino or........ short of some of the rebodies, which are good, there is sufficient history by serial number to verify the car.
I just visited the restoration dept at the Factory. See post in the main section: http://ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=93593 Unfortunately pics were not allowed, but those guys knew what they were doing. They were restoring a range of cars and were involved in the remanufacture of old parts for a number of clients around the world. It also looked like they were expanding and moving to a new facility. Mercedes has done something for classic car owners. I think the manufacturers are realizing the classic car industry is taking off in a big way, and they do not want to be left behind. If anyone is interested in giving them a try, PM for an e-mail address or use the contact info in the brochure. thx luke
I didn't get one! Now I feel left out. I'm registered on the owners site, and have gotten things from them in the past.
A seriuosly stupid amount of money if the benz prices are anything to go by! Have a look at how much MB charges for cars restored by themselves! http://www.mercedes-benz.com/content/mbcom/international/international_website/en/com/international_home/home/heritage_new/oldtimer_service/car_sales/current_offers.0007.html
I received the letter and brochure and I'm going to call Mr. Shannon LaBianco at FNA and ask him about the program in general. I can't even get a basic certificate issued for my car because we can't locate the engine number for my 246. (And yes, I've checked everywhere that all of the manuals and guidebooks say to look). Oh, and both the letter and the brochure say "Ferrari road cars over 20" years old, and all qualifying competition cars, regardless of age. Mark
Doesn't seem bad to me for a 300SL and if it really is restored as you'd expect from the MB factory, then its a bargain. If you want to see expensive Benzs check out Kienle's site. There are no prices on the site, but a fully restored 300SL gullwing will set you back about double the one on the MB link. Aston are doing the same, the factory at Newport Pagnell is now more or less just for restoration of customers cars.
Sorry it wasnt a good example, they are way more expensive than Kienle for cars restored by them! The Pagoda they sold was phenomenally expensive! It was done by them. About double I have seen asked anywhere. Have a look at their modded 6.9 S class
I don't doubt that the factory's commitment to older Ferraris. Mercedes has indeed been supporting older cars for a while, or at least offering restored cars for sale. Aston Martin has been supporting owners of their older cars both better and longer, with a ready supply of spare parts. What is surprising, in contrast, is the previous complete lack of factory support, particularly in North America. That lack of support was, in some ways, what made driving a Ferrari so special. An owner needed to know what readily available parts could be used in his car, and sought help from Allen Bishop and Gerald Roush, or parts from FAF or Tom Shaughnessy.
You can have mine. My car's finished, well almost, and even if it was not, it would not go to the factory for restoration. DM
I got two of those Classiche packets in the mail from Italy yesterday too. Their web site states that they charge 500 Euros (apx. $594 US) to provide a "certificate of authentity" for Ferraris that are over 20 years old.... and here's the kicker- "the authenticity certificate will be required for all vehicles taking part in official Ferrari classic car events". Guess you're not allowed to come out and play, unless you pony up $$$ to prove your car is REAL. The complete text is below. ------------------------------------------------------------------ The Ferrari Classiche certification programme was created to provide owners with a document that attests the originality of their car. The service is open to owners of (1) Ferrari’s GT cars over 20 years old, and (2) F1 single-seaters, sports-racers and sports-prototypes of all ages. Those interested in obtaining the certificate for cars that respect the relative criteria may send in a request using the form provided (see pdf file on the right). Once the request form and the technical specification form - complete with the documentation required - has been received, Ferrari Classiche will start the certification procedure to determine, on the basis of specific criteria of authenticity, whether the car in question is original. The assessment process carried out by Ferrari Classiche’s experts and consultants is extremely rigorous. Details and costs relative to the certification procedure are given in the General Conditions contained in the request form. As well as attesting the originality of cars, with effect from the 1st of January 2004 the authenticity certificate will be required for all vehicles taking part in official Ferrari classic car events. For the application form and technical specifications sheet to fill out as well as full details of the procedures and the criteria to comply with, please click on the relevant PDF download on the right-hand side of this page. To obtain the certificate, owners must: 1) read (i) the general conditions concerning the certification procedure indicated in the request form and (ii) the authenticity criteria; 2) print the request form, fill in all the fields and sign the form; 3) print the technical specification sheet, fill in all the fields indicated and attach the photographs requested; 4) send all the documentation (request form, technical specifications sheet and attachments) to Ferrari Classiche, Ferrari SpA, Via Abetone Inferiore 4, 41053 Maranello (MO), Italy and effect payment to Ferrari of the sum of €500.00 (five hundred).
Actually, the 500 is only an entrance fee. If your car belongs in this section of F-Chat, it could be as much as 2500. My 330's build sheets are unavailable, which makes me think that doing the proper research required by certification procedure would be close to this figure.
So I guess this means just having your car in the ferrari website garage is not proof of authenticity.
It will be interesting to see who Ferrari will select to act as a representive in the US to examine cars. Will it be dealers?
So, how is this particular "certificate" different from the one available (for free) online from the Ferrari Owners website? Pietro Image Unavailable, Please Login
When I chatted with Ferrari representatives at Cavallino, they stated that the car can be taken to a dealer or an independent shop with a factory trained personnel for the inspection. In my area they said that Tim Stanford's would be acceptable, in addition to Shelton and the Collection.
