Im trying to semi predict the prices for a project... 308 folks can you help me out?

You're going to get 19" wheels with 335s under a lowered 308?? If you do it without flares, please post LOTS of pics.

re: brakes -- look here: http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/showthread.php?t=55996

 

To do it my way, 20k

 

Brakes can easily get to $5k.

Suspension can be anywhere from $3k to $8k depending on what you want done.

Interior, well, the sky is the limit. A full interior restoration (new everything) is probably $15k just in parts...

 

If this is your goal, get a car that's already been done and buy it for $0.50 on the dollar.

There aren't a lot of kits or mods available, so most of the stuff you're looking for is going to be one off stuff that needs some development, read: not cheap.

The 308 is a great handling "classic" car, if you want modern handling and performance, buy a modern car.

 

aye, you are in over your head.

 

NOTE: prices are for parts, NOT labor and is MSRP.

Brakes = Brembo SLOTTED front MSRP $2,500, Girodisc floating hat rear SLOTTED rotors $700. Add $75 for DS3000 rear pads and add $35 for two pints of Motul 600. Contact Fchat sponsor www.************


Suspension = Nick Forza (Fchat sponsor) springs and shocks (300 lbs front, 250 rear) $1,500. New Energy Suspension (G variety) bushing are $18 each times 16 quantity. Contact http://www.nicksforzaferrari.com/forzaferrariwebsite1_001.htm


Interior and Seats: interior, yank out whatever you do not need ($free). Add Sparco seats ($800 on up depending on what you desire) and Schroth Profi-IIFE asm 4/5-point belts ($700). Contact http://www.autotoystore.com

As for proper harness/roll bar, fabricate or ???

The 19-inch rims, i feel they are WAY overboard. 17-inch max (maybe 18, but then you will have little sidewall) and i suggest Kinesis Motorsport ($5,000 including Mich Pilot PS2 rubber and enamel prancing horse centers). If you are serious, you want to REDUCE rotating mass and 19-inch is NOT the way to go about it. Playing around with the suspension and rims is literally an art form of balance. But if you want 19-inchers.... Kinesis makes those too Contact: www.kinesismotorsport.com



The base 1984/85 308QV should be about $32k on AVERAGE. If you love carbs... about $32k as well. It all depends on condition/milage/records.

As for WIDE rears, they are not a trip to happyville IMHO for handling. They may look cool, but frankly will add LOTS of rotating mass weight and make the cars SLOWER. The exception is if you go turbo or blower to greatly increase engine output (plan $10k for engine and other tweaks to make that a reality).

FYI: the 308 here has 17-inch rims and 8 inch front / 9 inch rear and i have more tire than engine (per se) and she handles great. REDUCE MASS, especially unsprung and rotating (and especially rotating mass as it gets further away from the center hub).

Hope this helps. The opinions are my own and there are MANY ways to do things. Variety is the spice of life

 

Excellent advice. If he could find an 'idiot' like me who already did it and is selling the car... (NO, the car here IS NOT for sale)

There are quite a few options and they are not 'one off.' One off would be the BBS custom 17-inch one piece rims project that never happened

Agree and disagree. Not everyone wants a 'modern' Ferrari as you have models with various other problems, higher parts costs, more $$$ to keep running, ABS crap, traction control... and the dreaded ODB system. A 308 is a 'raw' car and easily worked on. Old school as it were

Yes a newer car will handle 'better' and have more power. Some people prefer more classic cars yet desire more modern handling and other bits. Are guys like me sane at spending $xx,xxx to upgrade a 308... that is a whole 'nother can o' worms

 

Higher rated springs in front rather than back?

 

A resounding YES! With all due respect and said in a very nice calm voice, asking such a question means you may want to study vehicle dynamics as they pertain to the suspension (and dynamic handling characteristics) of an automobile.

 

More money than you have to play with!

If you can't afford a stock 308,
then try adding to the price of a 308, upgraded brakes and suspension, wheels/tires, interior/seats, 288 gto body panels/paint body work,
engine, not to mention Labor Labor Labor costs.

 

If you are planning on those big rear tires you MUST put fresh rear stub axles in as you WILL break old ones. If you plan on tracking the car at all with those wheels you will need to change the stub axles annually or risk the very good chance of loosing a wheel at speed. As for axles they are EXPENSIVE (over $1200 EACH). Be sure to budget these in your wheel calculations.

 

Oh, in two years the 308s will be astronomical in cost, just for a stock one..........just get that Subaru with the big wing.........you'll be happy!



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Steve's Euro will be worth $60 - 90K, and he won't take THAT!

 

As more and more people, like yourself, chop and modify these older examples...the number of unmolested, original cars, is reduced.

As these original cars get rarer and rarer, the value goes higher. Supply vs. demand.

You'd actually be FAR better off to look at the 348 series....a more modern handling and performance feel, and almost the same money as the more valuable early 308GTBs. A late 1989 328GTB will actually cost TWICE as much as the later and much more common 348s. A good 348GTB or S will be easier to find...Ron Tonkin had a screamin' red/red one recently......

I own two.1977s......original........unmodified (except for safety and ahem...some performance upgrades). That's the VINs.....early Ferraris have hand stamped 5 digit VINs...CARFAX won't even take 'em! TxDOT's computer doesn't either. They ask me to drop in only on slow days..call me a "problem child"...that hurts! LOL!

I'm jus' ribbin' ya a little! Good Luck in your search...there is a 288GTO look a like thread on THIS site, from Europe...he's workin' his butt off and we can applaud his effort. Return on that investment will be......zero! Other than his enjoyment of the car.

I was behind a REAL 288GTO in New Orleans last year, $350K will get ya one of those and it would be an appreciating asset. Unless you hit something!

 

Steve Maman (search) in Canada (up North), just rebuilt FChatter WilliamH's (search) 308GTB racecar, from early in his carreer...WilliamH has three or four 512TRs now, as well as his new F40.

Anyway, a car like that would fit your criteria.

This is NOT an endorsement of Steve Maman. It seems he sold LetsJet (search) a Zupra Team Sponsor (search), a busted up plaster horse sculpure...(Thread in OT)

I have to go now...AJ Foyt needs some more Benedryl...........(AP News story.....Google)

ttyl,
Bubba