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Discussion in 'Other Racing' started by watt, Jun 20, 2005.

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  1. watt

    watt Formula 3

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    #1 watt, Jun 20, 2005
    WINNER: at least 1 tyre company can create a tyre for the required speeds on the required track on the required weekend. bridgestone should gain other teams that want to be assured they can race every weekend.

    WINNERS: and 3 teams had the balls to run as a sport requires. and the judgement to select a better tyre company for the long run.

    WHINERS: Michelin should be banned from the sport

    COLLATERAL LOSER: indy loses likely permanently, as no other form of racing has the promise to rejuvenate it from irrelevancy.

    COLLATERAL WINNER: other US sites. F1 will likely accelerate move to vegas.
     
  2. WJHMH

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    #2 WJHMH, Jun 20, 2005
    I wouldn't count this hollow victory, in fact the points earned for this race shouldn't count at all.
     
  3. Neal K.

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    #3 Neal K., Jun 20, 2005

    Can you just imagine Ferrari winning the constructors'
    championship by only a few points and its detractors
    forever more pointing to this race with total derision?

    I am inclined to agree with you, though reluctantly.
     
  4. don_xvi

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    #4 don_xvi, Jun 20, 2005
    Congratulations to Ferrari for refusing to join the other teams in calling for a chicane so I might have been able to see a damned race yesterday! I'm just glad I only came down from Detroit rather than the people next to us in the stands that had traveled from Finland and the Czech Republic !

    I'm offering a set of Michelin Pilot Sports cheap...
     
  5. gougoul

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    #5 gougoul, Jun 20, 2005
    I guess this "race" is a real shame. It's all Ferrari's fault...
    It's still just a dumb sport, nothing else, so they could at least be fair-play and agree on the changes. Nobody discussed the rules these last years when they won everything hands down.

    The big loosers are the ones who paid to see the "show" IMO.
    The winners are yet to be found. F1 is since years a pathetic formula that just reached another top.
     
  6. fluque

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    #6 fluque, Jun 20, 2005
    While for the purpose of having a good show I would tend to agree, Bridgestone teams need not to be penalized by someone else's mistakes (i.e. Michelin and the Michelin teams). Ferrrari won fair and square becuase they ran the distance regardless of what happened to the others..... As everybody has said already it's the fans that lost big.
     
  7. gil308

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    #7 gil308, Jun 20, 2005
    Why? If this happened to Bridgestone, the race would have continued and everyone would say "poor Ferrari, can't get their act together this year." Would you take the points away from Alonzo or Raikenan (spelling?). No. Only 3 teams would have had the problem. I guarantee the race would have continued. Sure this race sucked for the fans, but why penalize teams ready to race?
     
  8. writerguy

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    #8 writerguy, Jun 20, 2005
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    Amazing display of racing eh?

    Beat Apu and the other Jordan and a couple of mobile chicaine's in the minardi's

    Yup congrats you just won the ugly baby contest
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  9. Adrift

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    #9 Adrift, Jun 20, 2005
    The 360's and 550's didn't fare so well. Anyone have any insight? Mechanical problems?
     
  10. bill365

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    #10 bill365, Jun 20, 2005
    Yes, congratulations!!

    IMO, the points have been rightfully assigned to the participants of the race. It would be a travesty to even consider declaring this race a non-scoring event.

    The request to add a chicane is ridiculous. Even in the interest of safety, wholly ridiculous. I have no recollection, of a request to make a last minute change in the layout of the track, ever being made to suit a tire manufacturer's shortcomings. The track layout change could be requested for future dates but not here in the 11th hour.

    Michelin simply, in their competitive development, got it wrong and in the interest of safety, image, marketing and liability, (and not necessarily in that order) decided to request that it's teams withdraw from the race.

    Has Minardi requested that FIA slow the other cars to make their cars more competitive?

    If your team's engines have a history of catastrophic failure at high speed, do you request that the sanctioning body slow the race down by adding a chicane in the fast straight?

    At LeMans a while back, did Mercedes request that the track be changed to prevent their cars from taking flight?

    Bill
     
  11. fluque

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    #11 fluque, Jun 20, 2005
    Bridgestone is capitalizing on Michelin's and F1 demise in the US.

    According to ITV-F1
    "Bridgestone-sponsored Champ Car World Series, rival to Indianapolis’ IRL IndyCar Series, has offered free entry to its next race for all US GP ticket holders."

    http://www.itv-f1.com/News_Article.aspx?PO_ID=33199
     
  12. F2003-GA

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    #12 F2003-GA, Jun 20, 2005
    Still not worth attending.
     
  13. speedy_sam

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    #13 speedy_sam, Jun 20, 2005
    DAmn I should my car on the grid too ... I would have been 25 secs a lap slower maybe much more but I would have still beaten Trulli and Raikkonen to a points finish
     
  14. racerx3317

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    #14 racerx3317, Jun 20, 2005
    How did running in that parade take balls? Sucked as it might have i think it took balls to pull 14 cars off the grid. I'm glad I don't have Michelins and now never will. The whole US might have lost out on this one, it might mean the death of the USGP in general not only at Indy. There are no winners, only losers and that would be all of us.
     
  15. VicG

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    #15 VicG, Jun 20, 2005
    Is it really necessary to call the Indian guy Apu?
     
  16. writerguy

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    #16 writerguy, Jun 20, 2005
    Sorry Vic you are right I just couldn't figure out how the hell to spell his name
     
  17. Formula 1

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    #17 Formula 1, Jun 20, 2005
    WOOHOO!!!!! 18 points for Ferrari ..... lets see that means that they are now in 2nd place with Mclaren and just 13 points behind Renault. :D
     
  18. Volvodriver

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    #18 Volvodriver, Jun 21, 2005
    Congrats to Ferrari, I agree but lets hear a big CHEER for Minardi two years in a row points at the USGP this time a big "7"
     

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