Does anyone know the current owner or whereabouts of this car ? It was built in the early 80's by Bob Norwood, and unlike his later aluminium-bodied P4 replicas, it was based on a shortened 365BB chassis, with fibreglass bodywork supplied by David Piper. The car featured in Petersen's Sports Car Classics magazine - #2 in 1982. It was possibly shown at the Luxembourg Auto Show in the last couple of years. The colour photo below is from their website: http://www.euro-racing-show.com Back in 1997, the car was in the U.K., road registered as XBY 166F. It was offered for sale at Brooks Olympia Auction in April, and subsequently advertised in Classic and SportsCar magazine in July and August issues, with U.S. and Belgian phone numbers. One of the latter still works, and when I rang it, out of curiosity, I was told that the office used to belong to a 'Benoit Bogaert'. Do any Belgian FChatters know of this person, or does anyone have any other photos of the car taken at the Luxembourg show ? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Paul, do you know how many P4 Replicas with Ferrari 12 cylinder engine are around? For sale? Prices? Thanks in advance....I know youare da`man in P4 Replica
or this one...even better (with Ferrari V12) ...only the price is a bit high 350.000 euro!!! http://www.carclassic.com/html/DE42.htm
Thanks for the link Waldo I know this site already from Paul. The 12 cylinder Ferari is sadly soooooooo ugly Can-Am and BTW tooooo expensive for a replica.
Well, Wolfgang, I reckon, including a couple cars under construction in the U.K., and another couple of aluminium-bodied Norwood P4's in the States, plus the original fibreglass-bodied Boxer-powered Norwood that I'm still looking for, brings it to a nice round figure of 20 Ferrari V-12 powered cars worldwide. Of those, I know only of two for sale in Europe and those are the two that Waldo has already mentioned: Neil Foreman's 400i-powered Can-Am and the Daytona-powered P4 at carclassic.com, which is in Southern France. Stateside, there are another couple. This car: http://www.public.iastate.edu/~thiett/photos3a/p4.jpg which was built by Jim Carpenter, on the remains of 330GT s/n 6067GT, and uses that car's main chassis rails and motor (but now much modded and running a custom injection set-up). Bodywork is in fibreglass and is heavily modified Noble, with a custom (and reasonably accurate) tail clip. Asking price is $125K, and the car is in Savannah, GA. Also, there is a yellow Norwood P4 powered by a 365GT4 V-12 fitted with 400i heads and Haltech fuel injection for sale. That's in North Palm Beach, FL., and the asking price is $250K ....
Yes, I agree, grossly overpriced. But then who set the price ? The owner or CarClassic.com ? Did you notice they had another couple of P4 replicas listed on their website ? There's this one - a modified Noble with V-6 Dino power http://www.carclassic.com/html/DE40.htm (also owned by the same person who owns the Daytona V-12-powered P4 replica, and who also happens to own 2 Daytonas listed with CarClassic) and this one: http://www.carclassic.com/html/BP22.HTM - a pretty much standard Noble P4 with a tuned Cosworth motor. Asking price was 66,000 Euros. Note I say 'was'. Because in fact, it isn't actually for sale any more. It sold at the Artcurial Poulain-Le Fur auction in Paris on 15th November, 2004 for less than half that price - 31,776 Euros ! Food for thought ?
my opinion? Even 30k is to much for a IMO fake Ferrari. A Ferrari that isn't built by Ferrari, has no Ferrari parts and no Ferrari engine... isn't a Ferrari and shouldn't bare the Ferrari badge. And shouldn't be sold for Ferrari prices eighter! ... But of course that's just my (humble ) opinion...
Thanks for all the links & hints......350K???????????????????? Crazy- never ever!!!! Its the most beautiful car ever built (to me). The original one, sadly I can never buy in my live but a lovely replica would be fun with a 12 cylinder - but not for this price
A copy of that Petersen's article from 1982 is currently for sale on eBay: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=4525819548 Bit of an unfortunate choice of title for the auction listing ! Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login