It's here! Now there's the matter of figuring out when I have time to install it... or, if my mechanic has time to do it. This thing is just BEAUTIFUL and I can't wait to hear the SOUNDS! Talk about a tuned exhaust system... OH BABY. Gary Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
They look just like my Ansa Sports mufflers except they are polished whereas the Ansa's are not. How much do they weigh?
Gary, Those are sweet! You have got to get sound files of before and after you have them installed! You got a contact for Larini ( I really wish I had not seen this post )
Here's their website: www.larinisystems.com If you're interested in buying one, write to David Clark at Larini and tell him that I sent you.
Hey Gary, Good luck, cant wait to hear your impression of the difference. I am probably next to take the jump.In the pics they appear quite large to be mounted end to end between chassis tubes. are they stack mounted or? Sound Bites as well! Michael
Michael, The canisters go in stacked, just like the factory muffler configuration, using the same mounting points. I plan on doing some videotaping of drive-bys and inside of the car, etc... once everything hooked up. Still haven't decided if I'm going to attempt installation myself. I'm seeing my mechanic at a party tomorrow night, so I'll be talking to him about it too.
Gary, They say timing is everything. Yes, I'm also in the market for a system and your purchase is very interesting. I have sent them an RFQ referencing your name. Did you contact this supplier in the UK as well? http://www.stainless-exhaust.com/ They also offer a sports or a standard system polished or un-polished for 512 BBI's. Good luck with your new toy, and thanks for sharing. Dave
Dave I looked at stainless exausts from london. They sent a few pictures which looked great. They do not yet have a sound recording. Waiting to hear hor garys system works out before making a decision. Went in a boxer with a tubi, apart from the expense, it was just too loud and didnt really sound that great. Looking for that mellow ferrari daytona type sound with better flow than the stock system and not too much noise. Apparently 6the aftermarket ansa system fitted this requirement so maybe the larini or stainless system will as well.
Sean/Dave, Here is a description of their exhaust system "sounds", etc.. that David Clark from Larini originally sent to me. Once I get everything hooked up, I will be videotaping and posting audio and video clips of drive-bys, interior sound, idle, etc... and everyone can hear if it's as good as they claim it is. Gary -------------------------------- Q. "Do you make a high performance stainless steel muffler for the 512BBi that would eliminate the "side mufflers" and increase the sound/performance? I have stock Euro headers on the car which have 4- outlets per side." A. Yes. We do indeed produce a Larini 'Sports' System for your vehicle, and it sounds absolutely phenomenal. The common complaint with the 512 BBi is that it does not offer the engine induction/roar of the carbed 365 BB. We are well aware of this and so what the Larini 'Sports' System does is exaggerate the existing exhaust note.... It lifts the volume, makes it deeper at low rpm and then really lifts the pitch at high rpm, so when matched with throttle opening it develops a beautiful BB works race car-type sound, under acceleration. It really is just one of the most satisfying exhaust notes. We have pictures of the similar 'Euro' Larini 365 BB 'Sports' System and Manifolds on our website - please check all pages. In particular the 'News' page and 'Contact us' page. We are intimate with the BB's and manufactured the displayed System for Terry Keys Motor Sport, based at the Silverstone 'F1' Grand Prix circuit. I know it's a different system on the 512 BBi but it will give you an indication of how difficult it is to manufacture any system for the Boxer cars. Expect a full magazine write-up in 'Auto Italia' magazine on this car soon. As you will see, from our website pictures, we have eliminated the separate "side muffler" arrangement. Our System will offer a 12 bhp increase and offer a phenomenal 'tuned' sound under acceleration. Our 512 BBi Larini 'Sports' System WILL satisfy all your requirements, sir. All sections of the exhaust are fully mirror polished. Fully stainless steel, it is a hand-made special order System with a 2 week lead time. Our System features authentic ribbed muffler casings with side seams and mirror-polished tips. This a PROPER dual silenced sport exhaust designed and tested for the 512BBi - all the other products we have seen actually drown the flat 12s sound with bass -moreover, they do not fit properly or worse don't match the engine/fuel injection system throughput - the system is HUGELY more free flowing in comparison to the standard item - so you can expect as much as a 12hp increase at the rear wheels. Low speed tractability is increased too, temperatures are reduced and it is much lighter than the stock item. Furthermore, the Larini 'Sports' System is actually warranted for life.
No, the company isn't involved with Nicola. They named the company in honor of a business associate/mentor who's last name is Larini. He is Italian and does own some Ferraris though.
The exhaust looks nice Interesting comment how they expect the exhaust to reduce temps, the PO of my Boxer had a Tubi on my car with the capped off smaller pipes, the exhaust got so hot it blistered the paint on the rear fibreglass bumper cover, the car has the stock exhaust on it now, could be why the stock exhaust weighs so much as it was designed as a heat sink to dissapate the high temps.
FYI, the "..BB works race car..." was a BB512LM which had Lucas fuel injection and not carburators like the production 365GT4/BB or BB512. So a "...BB works race car..." would not have a carburator intake roar anyway. I am anxious to hear the sound bits to see if it sounds as good as the Cherry Bomb system on the BB512i I heard a few months back? And,I had my OEM four oulet headers and two can Ansa 'sports' mufflers all cermanic coated which did decrease the engine compartment temp a lot.
Hi Gary, I haven't been able to keep up with all of your posts, so forgive me if I'm asking you to repeat yourself. I'm just curious--in a nutshell, what was it about the Larini system that attracted you--price, quality, sound? I'm just wondering why you didn't go with Tubi. Not that Tubi is better, but it's certainly the "standard." I don't know anything about exhausts for the 512BBi.
The Larini spiel certainly sounds good, and I guess we will "hear" from Gary soon. I dont think the stock exhaust is meant to act as a heat sink, I think it just traps too much heat. My car orginaly had straight pipes off each bank into a cat on each side and then overboard. Once the stock system was installed heat became an issue and throttle response was reduced, the car feelling somewhat corked. To stop the rear decklid from getting to hot, after a spirited drive upon shutdown, with stock exaust CO must be over 2.5 which is a bit rich. Possibl;y when the Tubi was installed the car became more efficient and the motor was a little to lean leading to excess heat.
I originally ordered a Tubi exhaust back in July for my Boxer and after 4 months of waiting, it arrived and was the 2- inlets per side model, not the 4- inlets per side unit which I ordered. Tubi then told me they were no longer making the 4-inlet unit, even though it's in their 2004 pricer/catalog. I did not want to cap off four of my header outlets to be able to use the 2-inlet version muffler which came with "cap off plates", so I asked for a refund. Tubi sent a UPS call tag and refunded the dealer who I bought it from and he sent me a check. The Larini Boxer system has 4- inlets per side, PLUS it also has 2-outlet pipes for the dual exhaust tips on each muffler, where as the Tubi only has one outlet pipe per muffler and it splits (Y shape) into two tips. From all appearances, the Larini looks like it is going to flow much better than the Tubi. Regarding price..... Even with all the extra features and being completely FULLY POLISHED, the Larini still has a lower list price than the Tubi (Tubi doesn't polish any of the inlet pipes, only the tips and canisters).
Thanks Gary. As I suspected, you know exactly what you're looking for, and I'm not surprised that the superioir result you achieved came at a lesser cost than the Tubi!
Gary, it is odd that Tubi's system only has two inlets per muffler? All Boxers came with the four outlet headers whether they came with the Ansa four muffler standard exhaust system or the Ansa two muffler 'sports' optional system. There was no NA Boxer . And if you look at the spare parts section on www.owners.ferrari.com it only shows the standard four can and optional two can systems which both have four inlets per side to match the four outlets per side from the headers. I wonder what the Tubi two inlet mufflers are designed to fit?
Frank, My guess is that the two inlet design is MUCH EASIER and LESS COSTLY for Tubi to build, compared to the four inlet version and that's why they are not accepting orders for them anymore. Borla also had a sport exhaust system for Boxers (now discontinued) and it was a 2-inlet design too. I know someone who has one on his BB. The Larini however, has ALL of the proper inlets and outlets and then some!!
I understand that it would be easier to make a two inlet muffler, but since the Boxer never came with a two outlet header, why would they do that? I'm wondering if the so called Boxer Tubi mufflers are for some other model and they just weld the Boxer brackets to it and sell it as if it were made for the Boxer. It sounds like something an all hype company like Tubi would do.
Why do you say that Frank? I'm debating over whether to get a tubi for my Ferrari or something else. Ansa and Stebro are a lot cheaper, but based on all I heard they just don't sound the same. Now that might be hype, so I'm curious why somebody would call tubi "hype". I always thought they were the pinnacle of exhaust systems. Which btw makes me wonder why you guys are talking about this Larini exhaust that you want to fit your wonderful BBi. Not that I think anything is wrong with a Larini exhaust. I'm just curious. For all I've been told is that Tubi is the pinnacle. Ansa and Stebro are #2, but what the heck is a Larini? Please educate me.
