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I love turning the battery off! Has that trick ever solved your problem?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by 348SStb, Nov 16, 2004.

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Did the "switching-the-battery-off trick" ever solve a problem of yours?

  1. Yes, it did. [Please indicate on the thread what problem it solved and what car you have.]

  2. I did not know about this little trick.

  3. No; I used the trick, but it didn't solve the problem.

  4. No, it did not solve a problem that I had because I didn't think to try.

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  1. 348SStb

    348SStb F1 Rookie
    Owner

    Here's an answer to most of your problems, fellow F-car drivers:

    Switch your battery off! Then turn it back on!

    I love this little trick. Use it when the car does something funny. Today my heating/air system went crazy on my 348. Only really hot air was coming out, even with the system turned off. Then the air system displayed "E5" on the digital display. When I did the little battery trick, it went away :) I know, the problem probably still exists, but it's gone for now.

    If anyone knows what the error code E5 means on a 348 air system, please go to my thread in the Technical Q/A section and help out!

    NOTA BENE:
    Be sure that all electrical components of the car are off before turning off the battery; then, when you turn it back on be sure not to use any electrical components in the car. Then start the engine without pressing the gas pedal and let the engine idle for about 10 minutes so that the engine computers can re-calibrate; then switch the engine off and re-start before driving away. :)

    For those of you who are unfamiliar with this, your F-car has a little black knob (somewhere) that switches the battery on or off.
     
  2. davey_jones

    davey_jones Formula Junior

    Sep 28, 2002
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    Maybe you can confirm this for me but I have been told that you cannot reset the ECUs by just turning off the battery. You have to actually unplug them.

    Dave
    Indy
    348ss
     
  3. 348SStb

    348SStb F1 Rookie
    Owner

    That depends... the error code history for the ECU computers for each cylinder bank needs to be cleared manually (although I have heard that turning off the battery "may" delete error codes...)

    But as far as the engine idle calibration, etcetera, that occurs automatically after igniting the engine after a re-powering on of the battery.
     
  4. 4i2fly

    4i2fly Formula 3

    Apr 16, 2004
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    It is strange a friend of mine had a suspension warning light on his 360 and the dealer asked him to turn off and on the battery switch to see if it gets cleared. No it didn't.
    In the old days when I worked on engine controllers there were different types of memory used to store data. And, if you disconnected the battery, let's say for 24 hours the internal charges to ecu would diminish to the point that the info written to memory would be lost. In the modern days the ecus are equipped with non-volatile memory or flash which means the error codes are written to a place where disconnecting the battery should not matter. Only under certain conditions the information can be erased or written, and that actually requires voltage to the ecu.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

    Apr 29, 2004
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    It was once required that errors and check engine lights be in hard memory. As of 99 it is no longer required. Much adaptive memory will be lost, so will readiness codes. If you go for a Ca smog test before the readiness codes are reestablished you will fail for that reason alone. Bosch is notorious for not telling us how to reestablish readiness codes and has not shared that info for any system built after Motronic 2.7 (348, 512, F50). Some times it takes a combination of things that will take many starts, warmups, drives, etc.
     
  6. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I forgot to say that on more recent Ferraris that most warning lights except CEL will not turn off by cycling the batt. I strongly suggest not turning off the batt. If required to "reboot" in an effort to get home is one thing, but if there is a problem to be diagnosed it will make it more difficult. Some of the errors tell us, how many times, when, and under what circumstances an error happened. Often important info in the process of diagnosis. Also with all of the adaptive systems on the car you are forcing it to relearn every time instead of adding to a long term database.
     
  7. Auraraptor

    Auraraptor F1 World Champ
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    Sep 25, 2002
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    I have not done it on my Ferrari, but I have used the disconnect the battery for 15-20min tech on my BMWs and Range Rover MKIII with great success.

    In fact it is the first thing I do whenever something electrical is doing something 'odd', or something with electric override.

    It works, and when it does not, to the dealership it goes.
     
  8. notoboy

    notoboy F1 Rookie

    Jul 8, 2003
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    It fixed the seatbelt mechanism on my TR a hundred times. Btw, the new seatbelts that were just put in by Ferrari under the recall STILL don't work properly. Anyone?
     
  9. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    It's a good way to deal with those pieces of crap. Ferrari has had several "fixes" for them, to date none have worked.
     
  10. Kram

    Kram Formula Junior

    Jul 3, 2004
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    I tried it with a 360 Modena. (see an old thread in Modern : Can you start this 360?) It didn’t work. In the end (yesterday) the dealer took out the aftermarket ECUs and put the origional one back in. The car now works, albeit with stock horse power.
     

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