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  1. ferraridriver

    ferraridriver F1 Rookie

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    #1 ferraridriver, Apr 26, 2012
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    Maranello SkunkWorks newest project is a remote trunk opener. Its always a chore to open the trunk when you have an arm full of things to put in the trunk. You have to disarm the car, open the door and toggle the trunk switch.

    Now all that's a thing of the past.

    John (cribbj) first had the idea of a remote trunk opener, he bought a couple of receivers and remotes and I've taken it from there because he's been on a road trip.

    The system uses the original Ferrari remote, a new 4 channel receiver, a 3 or 4 button key fob remote, and a system of relays. (the 4 button remote is not a key fob style, just a remote)

    The relay system incorporates a 5 second latch on one of the relays

    The reason for the 5 second latch is because I envisioned myself getting in the car, pushing the remote and by mistake hitting the trunk button instead of the disarm button. Now I have to get out and close the trunk. That's an oh crap moment I didn't want to go through.

    Having to push 2 buttons to open the trunk seemed like the best solution since now it's virtually impossible to accidentally open the trunk.

    The way it works is you walk up to a locked car with your arms full, push the button # 1 on the key fob remote and the car is unlocked/disarmed, push the button #2 and you have a 5 second window to push button # 3 which opens the trunk.

    There is still 1 channel unused, it could be used for anything you wanted to activate remotely like the exhaust valves for instance.

    Its all tested on the bench, now I have to install it and finish up the wiring.

    Here's a pic of the system in its box, and a pic of the 3 button remote. The box is 5 1/2 X 3 X 1 1/2 so its easy to fit in the area by the CD changer or behind the cover for the left tail lights. I haven't got that far yet

    The black thing with the white label between the pcb and the capacitor is an original Ferrari remote which is now powered by the car's battery.
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  2. toggie

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    Fantastic improvement idea!

    Can we also get an extra feature to open the gas lid?
    Maybe push buttons #3 and #2 in the reverse order to open the gas lid?

    What is the cost of this add-on?
    How difficult to install?
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  3. 12659

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    I want a remote that will open a beer bottle.
     
  4. toggie

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    #4 toggie, Apr 26, 2012
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    I have one of those!

    Opens both beer bottles and bottles of wine.
    (the blade cuts the tin foil top on the top of the wine bottle).

    Here's a pic of it.
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  5. Cribbj

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    Dave's really advanced this since I've been out of pocket for a few days - kudos to him for getting it all sorted, and to Eric355 for helping us with the concept and pointing us in the right direction for sourcing a secure transmitter/receiver combination.

    The basics of what we've done is to embed a cloned Ferrari fob into a 2nd, multichannel remote control system, so that the 2nd system now actuates the Ferrari fob and disarms the OEM immobiliser as normal. This uses the 1st channel of the new system, and BTW, no changes have been made to the OEM immobiliser system.

    The 2nd & 3rd channel of the new system handle the multistep trunk opening sequence as Dave described earlier. And the 4th channel is still available, should you want to open the gas lid, or the exhaust valves, etc.

    Concerning security, the new 2nd system uses a newer, more secure rolling code algorithm than the OEM system, so it is at least as, if not more, secure than the OEM.

    This should be a really useful addition to our 550's and/or other models that have a dash mounted trunk release switch, and it's completely reversible in less than an hour.

    Should the new system ever become dysfunctional, the original OEM fobs will continue to work as normal, so you can still disarm the car normally and drive it.
     
  6. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Dave,

    someone needs to start an actual store for MSW.
    sunvisor fix
    SDECU fix
    Multifunction Remote FOB
    Switchable steering ECU's
    COP conversion
    HID lights

    I was talking to John about doing the unit RFID so that you could have the FOB in your pocket and then pushbutton start the car or push the FOB buttons for the trunk. I'm 100% agree with Toggie need to make one button for the gas filler cap. I'm not a fan of the 5 sec delay unless you can turn it off.
     
  7. Cribbj

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    Carl, originally we didn't see a need for the delay or the multistep control, but then we thought, what happens if the owner is humming along at 100 mph, and he goes for the button that controls the exhaust pipes, but he hits the trunk release instead?

    Both Dave & I think the trunk lid will probably stay down from the force of the air, but neither of us wanted to test it. It's also possible that Ferrari have a built in speed based interlock on the trunk opener that keeps it from opening above a certain speed. Or they may have left it available to open, thinking that if any owner is dumb enough to try it, they deserve whatever happens :). Another scenario that neither Dave nor I wanted to test on our own cars.....
     
  8. ferraridriver

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    Yeah, I'm thinking IPO on Wall Street. :) The hot switchable FHP steering system will be offered next week.

    I've never had a problem with the gas flap, what's the issue there?

    The 5 second delay is not mandatory, just something I wanted being old and feeble minded. It can't be turned off but it can be omitted which frees up another channel.
     
  9. Trabots

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    and most importantly

    Exhaust fix: replace factory crimped , pinched exhaust, preferably with bigger pipes

    Again, proof of where the priorities are, all non-performance issues.
     
  10. ferraridriver

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    There are already at least a half dozen business that offer a fix for the crimped exhaust, and believe it or not some of us "girls blouses" have already done that.
     
  11. Cribbj

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    Don't forget the Canton filters, with the oil pressure sender relocation :)
     
  12. ferraridriver

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    #12 ferraridriver, Apr 26, 2012
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    Ya mean like this, still waiting for the second housing, they were out of stock
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  13. Trabots

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    Boy, I was starting to worry about my fellow Maranello owners being a bit light in their driving shoes. Has anyone gone larger from the cats back? Tuning issues? I am trying very hard to convey and solicit new information on the subject but because I am being "ignored" for flaming Taz last year, I have to goad to get a response. For that I apologise, apparently you are not all girl's blouses.

    The "ignoring" however is what school girls do to those currently out of favour. Taz, why not tell your cheerleaders to forgive me and let's keep trying to fix and improve these fabulous flawed Maranellos that we own?

    I also apologise for hijacking the threads.
     
  14. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    The gas filler door is just a good thing to have as a FOB button.

    I don't think a Mild to wild exhaust button is a good thing on the FOB. It is actually hard to find those buttons when driving. I would just have a panel switch or wire it into the sport switch with the shocks and steering ECU's.
     
  15. fatbillybob

    fatbillybob Two Time F1 World Champ
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    I have no idea what you are talking about with all the stuff unrelated to making a maranello better. In regards to exhausts those have been done by many as styated above and the only thing I could see as a maranello skunkworks project would be a full exhaust cutout that would bypass after the cats completely and just be loud. It may have some minor advantage racing or making noise but thart is about it. lets face it if your mary has any decent tune it will burn rubber in 3 gears. Another 25hp is not what these cars need. I'd rather make them lighter, quieter inside, and handle better. But that is just me.

    Hey gents, we'll have to add Pete's sound deadening to the MSW list of must do's.
     
  16. 166&456

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    Just wire it so it cannot be triggered with ignition on. I believe in standard form the trunk release also does not work unless ignition is off?
     
  17. fatbillybob

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    How about we make a stealth hidden retractable front license plate that displays at the press of a button. LEO pulls you over for no front plate. He comes to your window. You ask him to go look again... Now that would be funny.
     
  18. Cribbj

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    Good idea, but the trunk release works whether ignition is on or off, while the gas flap works only with ignition on. We could combine the two with a little boolean logic and get a trigger that works only with ignition off. However, if you were sitting in a parking lot, with the car idling, and wifey comes up and wants you to pop the trunk, you'd then have to shut the engine down just to open the trunk. Bit inconvenient that.

    A speed/moving interlock would be a better choice if it's already implemented somewhere else.
     
  19. 166&456

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    That's true indeed, now I remember; and rather inconvenient at that, especially the gas flap. On my daily driver the trunk unlock on the remote does not work with engine on, but the switch in the glovecompartment for it still does. That is the best of both worlds.
    Ideally the doors should be unlocked or automatically unlock when unlocking the trunk, to avoid triggering the alarm.
     
  20. Cribbj

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    That's easily do-able with this.

    Yes, that's a little "feature" of the current prototype; popping the trunk without first disarming the alarm/immobiliser does set off the alarm. A little more boolean should sort that right out :)
     
  21. fatbillybob

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    John/Dave,

    When is the remote trunk opener ready for me to buy one?
     
  22. 2005575superamerica

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    on my 575 the truck only opens when he ignition is off
     
  23. Cribbj

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    Hmmm, good to know; a 550 owner must have opened the trunk at speed and that's another thing Ferrari decided to fix on the 575 :)
     
  24. ferraridriver

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    Just to answer some questions in advance.......

    We have no intention of selling this remote trunk opener. There are many permutations of what one can do with a multi channel remote this is just one.

    We have no problems with sharing the source of the receiver and remotes, they come from an electronics distributor in Slovakia but are made in Italy. Their website is http://www.soselectronic.com/ and I should note that this lead was given us by Eric355, an electronics wizard in France.

    Delivery, while expensive, is 4-5 days to the US

    Anyone can buy the components and do whatever they want, its not all that difficult

    I have it installed in the trunk along side the CD changer and I can remotely open the trunk from 50 feet away so there is no need for an additional antenna.

    Just to clarify the 5 second delay, you don't have to wait 5 seconds to open the trunk, you just have to push the buttons one after the other.

    There are 4 channels so if you don't want a delay, don't put that circuit in.

    Another feature is that you can assign channels to be latched, one push on, the next push off. This is a very neat receiver.

    To further enhance security is the fact that the receiver and remotes operate on the European frequency of 433mhz vs 315mhz in the US so the odds of someone being able to hack the system in the US are astronomical.
     
  25. eric355

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    Well done Dave :)
    and thanks for the kind words ;)
     

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