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  1. riverflyer

    riverflyer F1 Rookie

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    #1 riverflyer, Sep 21, 2004
    Saw this post on PPBB and seemed very impressive. I know enzo's have run there on a number of occasions and wonder what times were posted. Does anyone have other times to put this in perspective? John

    Successful record set up on the North Circuit
    The Carrera GT is the fastest car to lap the Nürburgring North Circuit. With the clock showing 7’32.44 minutes, Horst von Saurma, Chief Editor of the German specialist magazine “sport auto,” achieved a new record for road-approved vehicles, at the wheel of the 612 HP strong Porsche. He completed the 22.6 km long round in the Eifel at an average speed of 164 km/h.

    "It was really touch and go. The circuit was dirty in some sectors, which didn’t make it any easier,” beamed Horst von Saurma with glee, after his record round.

    For ten years the magazine has been awarding an (unofficial) challenge cup to the driver who drives the fastest round on the Nürburgring using a road-approved car. Thus the race for the best time round the circuit has become a prestigious affair, as Nürburgring is still the best and most honest test of the quality of a vehicle chassis, motor performance, aerodynamics and naturally of tires. Since 1995, times have gradually improved from 7’52 minutes to the current 7’32.44 minutes. Wolfgang Dürheimer, Member of Porsche’s Management Board responsible for Research and Development: “The time achieved by Horst von Saurma is excellent and demonstrates the potential of our car. Until recently such times could exclusively be clocked up with pure racing prototypes.”

    The journalist von Saurma clocked up the fastest round in the context of a so-called “super test,” which the magazine executes regularly. Top times on the Nürburgring, always driven by the same tester, are among the criteria. Wolfgang Dürheimer: “It is precisely for this reason that the 7’32.44 minutes are so easy for us to put in to context and are thus valuable.”
     
  2. Napolis

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    #2 Napolis, Sep 21, 2004
    Does anyone know other's times? Lambo, Enzo, Saleen, Pagani?
     
  3. damcgee

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    #3 damcgee, Sep 22, 2004
    I'd love to know other times, as well, but it's difficult to keep people honest about it.
     
  4. bert308

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    #4 bert308, Sep 23, 2004
    From the official site:

    "Historical records"
    Formel 1:
    Clay Regazzoni (Ferrari)
    7:06,4 (192,8 km/h) beim Großen Preis von Deutschland 1975

    Sportwagen:
    Derek Bell / Stefan Bellof (Porsche 956)
    6:25,91 (194,33 km/h) beim 1000km-Rennen 1983

    Motorräder:
    Marco Lucchinelli (Suzuki 500ccm)
    8:22,2 (163,6 km/h) beim Großen Preis von Deutschland 1980

    "Fastest laps in Formula 1", after 1976 (Lauda accident) there were no F1 races anymore on the long track.

    1967 Dan Gurney USA Eagle Weslake 8:15,1 160,00
    1968 Jackie Stewart GBR Matra Ford 9:36,0 142,700
    1969 Jacky Ickx BEL Brabham Ford 7:43,8 177,244
    1971 Francois Cevert FRA Tyrrell Ford 7:20,1 186,800
    1972 Jacky Ickx BEL Ferrari 7:13,6 189,600
    1973 Carlos Pace BRA Surtees Ford 7:11,4 190,600
    1974 Jody Scheckter RSA Tyrrell Ford 7:11,1 190,689
    1975 Clay Regazzoni SUI Ferrari 7:06,4 192,790
    1976 Jody Scheckter RSA Tyrrell Ford 7:10,8 190
     
  5. bert308

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    #5 bert308, Sep 23, 2004
    Some more:

    Achille Varzi Bugatti T51
    1931-07-19, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 115.983 km/h 11 48 000
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1936-06-14, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 119.877 km/h 11 25 000
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1935-06-16, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 123.483 km/h 11 05 000
    Tazio Nuvolari Alfa Romeo Tipo-B P3
    1932-07-17, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 126.449 km/h 10 49 400
    Hans Stuck Auto Union
    1934-07-15, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 127.549 km/h 10 43 800
    Manfred von Brauchitsch (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1935-07-28, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 129.930 km/h 10 32 000
    Eugen Böhringer Mercedes 300 SE
    1963-06-06, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 130.074 km/h 10 31 300
    Hans Herrmann (D), Ben Pon (NL) Fiat Abarth 1000 Bialbero
    1962-09-02, 500 km Rennen 22.810 km 131.260 km/h 10 25 600
    Rudolf Caracciola (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1939-07-23, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 131.554 km/h 10 24 200
    Robert Manzon (F), Piero Taruffi (I) Lancia D24
    1953-08-30, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 131.807 km/h 10 23 000
    Eugen Böhringer (D), Dieter Glemser (D) Mercedes 300 SE
    1964-06-21, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 132.253 km/h 10 20 900
    John Whitemore (GB), Jack Sears (GB) Ford Lotus Cortina
    1965-06-13, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 132.616 km/h 10 19 200
    Graham Hill BRM P57
    1962-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 134.133 km/h 10 12 200
    John Whitemore (GB), Jack Sears (GB) Ford Lotus Cortina
    1965-06-13, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 134.440 km/h 10 10 800
    Richard Seaman (GB) Mercedes-Benz
    1938-07-24, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 134.815 km/h 10 09 100
    Andrea de Adamich (I) Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA
    1966-07-03, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 134.860 km/h 10 08 900
    Alberto Ascari Ferrari 500
    1952-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 135.706 km/h 10 05 100
    Hans Herrmann (D), Vittorio Venturi (I) Fiat Abarth 1000 S
    1963-09-01, 500 km Rennen 22.810 km 135.774 km/h 10 04 800
    Alberto Ascari Ferrari 500
    1952-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 135.864 km/h 10 04 400
    Juan Manuel Fangio (RA), Eugenio Castellotti (I) Ferrari 860 Monza
    1956-05-27, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 136.044 km/h 10 03 600
    Alberto Ascari Ferrari 500
    1953-08-02, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 136.906 km/h 9 59 800
    Andrea de Adamich (I), Teodore Zeccoli (I) Alfa Romeo 1600 GTA
    1966-07-03, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.810 km 136.928 km/h 9 59 700
    Hubert Hahne (D) BMW 2000 Ti
    1966-08-07, Tourenwagen-Rennen, 1966, Datum? 22.810 km 137.111 km/h 9 58 900
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1937-06-13, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 137.134 km/h 9 58 800
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1937-06-13, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 137.548 km/h 9 57 000
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1936-06-21, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 137.709 km/h 9 56 300
    Alberto Ascari Ferrari 500
    1953-08-02, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 137.779 km/h 9 56 000
    Alberto Ascari Ferrari 375
    1951-07-29, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 137.825 km/h 9 55 800
    Juan Manuel Fangio Alfa Romeo 159
    1951-07-29, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 137.825 km/h 9 55 800
    Karl Kling Mercedes W196
    1954-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 137.987 km/h 9 55 100
    Hermann Lang (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1939-05-21, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 138.242 km/h 9 54 000
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1937-07-25, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 138.382 km/h 9 53 400
    Hermann Lang (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1939-05-21, Eifelrennen 22.810 km 138.663 km/h 9 52 200
    Juan Manuel Fangio Lancia-Ferrari D50
    1956-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 138.897 km/h 9 51 200
    Juan Manuel Fangio Mercedes W196
    1954-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 139.156 km/h 9 50 100
    Manfred von Brauchitsch (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1938-07-24, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 139.558 km/h 9 48 400
    Bernd Rosemeyer (D) Auto Union
    1937-07-25, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 140.082 km/h 9 46 200
    Jo Bonnier (S), Olivier Gendebien (B) Porsche 718 RS60
    1960-05-22, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 140.706 km/h 9 43 600
    Stirling Moss (GB), Juan Manuel Fangio (RA) Maserati 450S
    1957-05-26, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 140.730 km/h 9 43 500
    Hermann Lang (D) Mercedes-Benz
    1939-07-23, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 140.827 km/h 9 43 100
    Mike Hawthorn (GB), Peter Collins (GB) Ferrari 250 TR58
    1958-06-01, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 140.827 km/h 9 43 100
    Juan Manuel Fangio Lancia-Ferrari D50
    1956-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 141.190 km/h 9 41 600
    Tony Brooks (GB), Jean Behra (F) Ferrari 250 TR59
    1959-06-07, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 142.217 km/h 9 37 400
    Phil Hill (GB) Ferrari Dino 246SP
    1962-05-27, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, FL 22.810 km 143.585 km/h 9 31 900
    Juan Manuel Fangio Maserati 250F
    1957-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 145.184 km/h 9 25 600
    Juan Manuel Fangio Maserati 250F
    1957-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 147.320 km/h 9 17 400
    Phil Hill (GB) Ferrari Dino 246SP
    1961-05-25, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, FL 22.810 km 147.744 km/h 9 15 800
    Mike Hawthorn Ferrari 246
    1958-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 148.224 km/h 9 14 000
    John Surtees (GB), Willy Mairesse (B) Ferrari 250P
    1963-05-19, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.810 km 148.465 km/h 9 13 100
    Stirling Moss Vanwall
    1958-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 149.519 km/h 9 09 200
    Phil Hill Ferrari 156
    1961-08-06, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 152.689 km/h 8 57 800
    Phil Hill Ferrari 156
    1961-08-06, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 153.430 km/h 8 55 200
    John Surtees Cooper T81
    1966-08-07, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 155.229 km/h 8 49 000
    Dan Gurney Porsche 804
    1962-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 155.759 km/h 8 47 200
    John Surtees Ferrari 156/63
    1963-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 155.818 km/h 8 47 000
    Jim Clark Lotus 25
    1963-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 156.173 km/h 8 45 800
    John Surtees Ferrari 158
    1964-08-02, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 158.220 km/h 8 39 000
    John Surtees Ferrari 158
    1964-08-02, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 158.403 km/h 8 38 400
    Jim Clark Lotus 33
    1965-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 162.896 km/h 8 24 100
    Jim Clark Lotus 33
    1965-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 163.350 km/h 8 22 700
    Jim Clark Lotus 33
    1966-08-07, GP Deutschland 22.810 km 165.390 km/h 8 16 500
    Helmut Marko (A) Mc Namara Formel V, ca.65 PS
    1969-08-03, Formel V beim GP Deutschland 22.835 km 138.932 km/h 9 51 700
    Dieter Fröhlich (D) Porsche 911 L
    1968-07-07, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 141.564 km/h 9 40 700
    Helmut Kelleners (D) Porsche 911 L
    1968-07-07, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 142.570 km/h 9 36 600
    Jackie Stewart Matra MS10
    1968-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 142.719 km/h 9 36 000
    Dieter Quester (A) BMW 2002 TIK
    1969-07-07, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 144.196 km/h 9 30 100
    Toine Hezemans (NL), Nanni Galli (I) Alfa Romeo 2000 GTAm
    1970-07-12, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 145.755 km/h 9 24 000
    Howden Ganley (NZ) BRM P167 Chevrolet
    1972-04-03, 300km Rennen 22.835 km 150.285 km/h 9 07 000
    Jacky Ickx Ferrari 312
    1968-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 151.114 km/h 9 04 000
    Tom Walkinshaw (GB) TWR Jaguar XJ-S
    1982-07-08, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 151.571 km/h 9 02 360
    Tom Walkinshaw (GB) TWR Jaguar XJ-S
    1982-07-08, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 151.672 km/h 9 02 000
    Helmut Kelleners (D), Herbert Müller (CH) Eggenberger BMW 320
    1979-07-08, Int. ADAC 4-Stunden Rennen, EM 22.835 km 152.177 km/h 9 00 200
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) Ford Capri RS
    1972-04-30, DRM Eifelrennen 22.835 km 152.318 km/h 8 59 700
    Rolf Stommelen (D) Ford Capri RS 2600
    1971-07-11, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 152.799 km/h 8 58 000
    Jörg Denzel (D) AMG Mercedes 450 SLC
    1980-07-06, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 152.907 km/h 8 57 620
    Rolf Stommelen (D), Alex Soler-Roig (E) Ford Capri RS 2600
    1971-07-11, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 153.685 km/h 8 54 900
    Helmut Kelleners (D), Siegfried Müller jr. (D) Eggenberger BMW 320
    1980-07-06, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 154.604 km/h 8 51 720
    Jochen Mass (D) Ford Capri RS 2600
    1972-07-09, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 154.814 km/h 8 51 000
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D), Dieter Glemser (D) Ford Capri RS 2600
    1972-07-09, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 157.755 km/h 8 41 100
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) Ford Capri RS
    1972-09-03, Eifelpokal 500km, PP = FL 22.835 km 158.515 km/h 8 38 600
    John Fitzpatrick (GB) Luigi BMW 3.0 CSL
    1978-07-09, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 158.668 km/h 8 38 100
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) Luigi BMW 3.0 CSL
    1976-07-11, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 158.883 km/h 8 37 400
    Toine Hezemans (NL) Porsche Carrera RSR
    1973-04-29, DRM, Eifelrennen 22.835 km 160.090 km/h 8 33 500
    John Fitzpatrick (GB) Jaguar XJ 12C 5.3
    1977-07-10, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 160.904 km/h 8 30 900
    Umberto Grano (I), John Fitzpatrick (GB) Luigi BMW 3.0 CSL
    1978-07-09, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 161.062 km/h 8 30 400
    John Fitzpatrick (GB) Jaguar XJ 12C 5.3
    1977-07-10, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 161.251 km/h 8 29 800
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) Luigi BMW 3.0 CSL
    1976-07-11, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 161.505 km/h 8 29 000
    Harald Menzel (D) BMW 3.0 CSL
    1973-08-05, DRM, GP Deutschland, FL ( < PP!!) 22.835 km 161.887 km/h 8 27 800
    Marco Lucchinelli (I) Suzuki 500
    0000-00-00, GP Deutschland, 1980, Datum? 22.835 km 163.682 km/h 8 22 230
    Niki Lauda (A) Alpina BMW 3.0 CSL
    1973-07-08, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 163.986 km/h 8 21 300
    John Fitzpatrick (GB) Schnitzer BMW 3.0 CSL 4v
    1975-07-13, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 164.511 km/h 8 19 700
    John Fitzpatrick (GB) Porsche Carrera
    1975-04-27, DRM, Eifelrennen, PP 22.835 km 164.874 km/h 8 18 600
    Niki Lauda (A) Alpina BMW 3.0 CSL
    1973-07-08, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 165.139 km/h 8 17 800
    Hans-Peter Joisten (B), Niki Lauda (A) BMW 3.0 CSL
    1973-07-08, 6h Rennen 22.835 km 165.404 km/h 8 17 000
    Dan Gurney Eagle T1G
    1967-08-06, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 166.039 km/h 8 15 100
    Helmut Kelleners (D) Porsche 934 Turbo
    1976-05-02, DRM, Eifelrennen, FL 22.835 km 166.510 km/h 8 13 700
    Helmut Kelleners (D), Harald Grohs (D) Faltz-Alpina BMW 3.0 CSL 4v
    1975-07-13, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 166.984 km/h 8 12 300
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) BMW 3.0 CSL
    1974-07-14, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 167.187 km/h 8 11 700
    Hans-Joachim Stuck (D) BMW 3.0 CSL
    1974-07-14, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 167.460 km/h 8 10 900
    Toine Hezemans (NL) Porsche 934 Turbo
    1976-08-01, DRM, GP Deutschland, PP 22.835 km 167.631 km/h 8 10 400
    Jim Clark Lotus 49
    1967-08-06, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 169.812 km/h 8 04 100
    Rolf Stommelen (D) Porsche 935
    1980-04-27, DRM, Int. Eifelrennen FL 22.835 km 171.538 km/h 7 59 230
    Ronnie Petersen (S), Tim Schenken (AUS) Ferrari 312 PB
    1972-05-25, 1000km Rennen, PP 22.835 km 172.665 km/h 7 56 100
    Tom Walkinshaw (GB), Chuck Nicholson (GB) TWR Jaguar XJ-S
    1983-07-10, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen, EM 22.835 km 172.702 km/h 7 56 000
    Rolf Stommelen (D) Porsche 935
    1977-03-27, DRM, 12.ADAC 300 km, FL 22.835 km 174.535 km/h 7 51 000
    John Burton (GB) Chevron B21 Ford
    1972-09-03, 500 km Rennen 22.835 km 174.683 km/h 7 50 600
    Helmut Kelleners (D) McLaren M20 Chevrolet
    1974-06-17, 300km Rennen, Goodyear Pokal 22.835 km 177.016 km/h 7 44 400
    Jacky Ickx Brabham BT26A
    1969-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 177.245 km/h 7 43 800
    Jacky Ickx Brabham BT26A
    1969-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 177.897 km/h 7 42 100
    Toine Hezemans (NL) Porsche 935/2
    1978-04-30, DRM, 41.ADAC Eifelrennen, FL 22.835 km 178.515 km/h 7 40 500
    Bob Wollek (F) Porsche 935
    1977-05-01, DRM, 40.Int. ADAC Eifelrennen, FL 22.835 km 178.670 km/h 7 40 100
    Bob Wollek (F) Porsche 935/2
    1978-04-02, DRM, 13.ADAC 300 km, FL 22.835 km 179.528 km/h 7 37 900
    Klaus Ludwig (D) Porsche 935
    1979-04-29, DRM, Int. Eifelrennen FL 22.835 km 179.764 km/h 7 37 300
    Rolf Stommelen (D) Porsche 908/3 Turbo
    1980-05-25, 1000km Rennen 22.835 km 180.237 km/h 7 36 100
    Willy Kauhsen (D) Porsche 917/10
    1972-04-03, 300km Rennen 22.835 km 180.276 km/h 7 36 000
    Emerson Fittipaldi (BR) Porsche 917/10 TC
    1974-06-17, 300km Rennen, Goodyear Pokal 22.835 km 180.951 km/h 7 34 300
    Reinhold Jöst (D) Porsche 908/3-6 Turbo
    1978-04-02, 22.835 km 180.951 km/h 7 34 300
    Willy Kauhsen (D) Porsche 917/10 Turbo
    1973-04-01, 300km Rennen, Goodyear Pokal 22.835 km 182.073 km/h 7 31 500
    Willy Kauhsen (D) Porsche 917/10 Turbo
    1973-04-01, 300km Rennen, Goodyear Pokal 22.835 km 182.113 km/h 7 31 400
    Rolf Stommelen (D) Porsche 936 / 82
    1982-04-25, DRM, 45.Int Eifelrennen FL 22.835 km 183.442 km/h 7 28 130
    Bob Wollek (F) Porsche 936 / 80
    1982-07-04, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen 22.835 km 184.323 km/h 7 25 990
    Manfred Winkelhock (D) Ford Capri Turbo
    1981-04-26, Eifelrennen, DRM 22.835 km 185.810 km/h 7 22 420
    Manfred Winkelhock (D) Ford Capri Turbo
    1981-04-26, Eifelrennen, DRM 22.835 km 185.982 km/h 7 22 010
    Francois Cévert (F) Tyrell 002
    1971-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 186.789 km/h 7 20 100
    Jackie Stewart (GB) Tyrell 003
    1971-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 187.257 km/h 7 19 000
    Klaus Ludwig (D), Manfred Winkelhock (D) Ford C100
    1982-05-30, 1000km Rennen, Sportwagen WM, PP 22.835 km 188.300 km/h 7 16 570
    Jacky Ickx Ferrari 312 B2-72
    1972-07-30, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 189.589 km/h 7 13 600
    Jean-Pierre Beltoise (F), François Cevert (F) Matra-Simca MS670B
    1973-05-27, 1000km Rennen, PP 22.835 km 189.940 km/h 7 12 800
    Carlos Pace Surtees TS14A
    1973-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 190.556 km/h 7 11 400
    Jody Scheckter Tyrell 007
    1974-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 190.689 km/h 7 11 100
    Gérard Larrousse (F), Henri Pescarolo (F) Matra-Simca MS670C
    1974-05-19, 1000km Rennen, PP 22.835 km 190.822 km/h 7 10 800
    Jody Scheckter Tyrell P34
    1976-08-01, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 190.822 km/h 7 10 800
    Klaus Niedzwiedz (D) Ford Capri Turbo
    1982-07-04, Großer Preis der Tourenwagen 22.835 km 191.806 km/h 7 08 590
    Jackie Stewart Tyrell 006
    1973-08-05, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 192.160 km/h 7 07 800
    Jacky Ickx Ferrari 312 B2-72
    1972-07-30, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 192.520 km/h 7 07 000
    Stefan Bellof (D) Maurer MM82, BMW/Heidegger
    1982-04-25, F2, ewiger Rekord, Stefan's Nordschleifen-Premiere 22.835 km 192.741 km/h 7 06 510
    Clay Regazzoni (CH) Ferrari 312 B3
    1975-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 192.791 km/h 7 06 400
    Niki Lauda (A) Ferrari 312 B3
    1974-08-04, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 195.356 km/h 7 00 800
    Niki Lauda (A) Ferrari 312 B3
    1975-08-03, GP Deutschland 22.835 km 196.383 km/h 6 58 600
    Ronnie Petersen (S) BMW 320i, Hohmann Racing Team
    1977-03-27, DRM 300km Rennen, PP 22.835 km 167.392 km/h 8 11 100
    Albrecht Krebs BMW 2002 Schnitzer Turbo (Div.2, 1.4L Turbo, 400PS
    1977-05-01, DRM Eifelrennen 22.835 km 171.979 km/h 7 58 000
    Marc Surer BMW 320i (BMW Junior Team - 2.0L, 320PS, Sauger)
    1977-05-01, DRM Eifelrennen 22.835 km 169.988 km/h 8 03 600


    As planned, we didn’t talk about races, but now, an exeption has to be made :1983 Nurburgring 1000 km.

    It was the last time people saw racing cars of this level of performance on the old nurburgring. 20 years later, it’s become hard to imagine such a madness. The same prototypes as used at Le Mans, 600 bhp/900 kg monsters, reaching 300 km/h down to Fuchsröhre, relying on a strong ground effect on a track where they took off several times… And without airbags ! !

    Some photos of the ultimate race ? See www.nurburgring.de

    Stephan Bellof set the absolute record of the Track, driving his Porsche 956 in 6 min 11s .However, the track had been modified due to the construction of the F1 circuit. So figures can not be strictly compared with others, but anyway, it was the fastest lap on the Nordschleife ever.
     
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    #6 chickyb, Sep 24, 2004
    Don't believe everything the germans tell you!!! The CGT is not the holder of the fastest time around the Nürburgring (Nordschleife) for a road-approved vehicle, on road-legal tires!
    The holder is the Radical SR3 Turbo. It's time 7min 19.7sec and it was only allowed one flying lap!!!
    Many of you will not of heard of Radical, and i bet the Germans would like to keep it that way, no body like's getting destroyed by a 1.5 litre in there own back-yard!
    Radical is a small british company, that make "extreme sports cars" for trackdays, racing and road use. Most, if not all, are powered by bike engine's, the SR3 turbo's is from a Suzuki Hayabusa. Fitted with a turbo it puts out 260bhp and 200lb ft of torque. There secret is there very light weight.
    The SR4 turbo costs £40,000 ($73,000), which is a bargain compared to the CGT.

    links......


    http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/media/lordofthering/index.php

    http://www.radicalmotorsport.com/
     
  7. 410SA

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    That's quite a legal road going automobile with street tires. Luggage space looks a little tight, as does room for the passenger. I wonder if they used the built in Nav system to find their way round the Ring.
     
  8. VROOM!!!

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    That looks really cool! Thanks!
     
  9. stevep

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    #9 stevep, Sep 24, 2004
    the radicals are the kiddies
     
  10. Roland E Linder

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    #10 Roland E Linder, Sep 24, 2004
    And I thought that I went fast in a 911 group 5 in the 70th..We were proud to get below the 9 min.and now a street car makes it even faster in a street trim...
    Time to retire...
    Roland
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  11. riverflyer

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    #11 riverflyer, Sep 24, 2004
    Although the radical is a very cool car and a great deal, I ahve to agree with Alex in that it is stretching it to consider it a road car.

    I was hoping to see some times for other modern supercars. Anyone?
     
  12. richard

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    #12 richard, Sep 24, 2004
    I was not aware the Radical was road-legal everywhere, I thought only some countries permitted them to be used on the road. Any clarification?

    Not that it much matters since the Radical is a racecar, regardless of whether or not it meets the "letter of the law" for road car purposes. As far as real cars with carrying capacity and creature comforts are concerned...what is the fastest? I am relatively certain the Carrera GT is the fastest factory car, but I thought that the RUF 650R was faster period.

    Also, hasn't Rohrl already set a lap time in the CGT which is several seconds faster than the one posted above? I recall seeing 7:28 somewhere around here or rennteam...
     
  13. bert308

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    #13 bert308, Oct 29, 2004
    Here is the complete list of lap times from the same guy that drove the C GT,
    credit for this list goes to the members of www.nurburgring.nl :

    Porsche Carrera GT 7.40 (1-2004)
    Techart-Porsche GT street 7.43 (8-2001)
    Pagani Zonda S 7.44 (7-2002)
    Porsche 996 GT2 7.46 (6-2001)
    Porsche 996 GT3 RS 7.47 (3-2004)
    Porsche 996 GT3 Cup 7.49 (2-1999)
    Lamborghini Murciélago 7.50 (6-2002)
    BMW M3 CSL 7.50 (8-2003)
    Lamborghini Gallardo 7.52 (12-2003)
    Mercedes SLR McLaren 7.52 (6-2004)
    Porsche 996 GT3 7.54 (6-2003)
    Porsche 996 Turbo 7.56 (6-2000)
    Ferrari Challenge Stradale 7.56 (2-2004)
    Lotec 993 Turbo 7.57 (5-1998)
    Porsche 996 GT3 8.03 (8-1999)
    Lamborghini Diablo GT 8.04 (7-2000)
    Ferrari 575M Maranello 8.05 (12-2002)
    Ferrari 550 Maranello 8.07 (6-1998)
    Lamborghini Diablo SV 8.09 (12-1997)
    Ferrari 360 Modena 8.09 (10-1999)
    Honda NSX-R 8.09 (8-2002)
    Chrysler Viper GTS 8.10 (10-1997)
    Donkervoort D8 180R 8.10 (3-2001)
    Mercedes SL 55 AMG 8.12 (4-2002)
    Lotus Esprit Sport 350 8.13 (5-1999)
    Dodge Viper SRT-10 8.13 (10-2004)
    AC Schnitzer M3 CLS III 8.16 (11-1997)
    Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (1-1998)
    Porsche 996 Carrera 8.17 (10-2001)
    Aston Martin V12 Vanquish 8.17 (1-2003)
    Ferrari F355 8.18 (6-1997)
    BMW Z8 8.18 (8-2000)
    Chevrolet Corvette Com.Edi 8.18 (9-2003)
    Audi RS6 8.20 (9-2002)
    BMW M Coupé 8.22 (10-1998)
    BMW M3 8.22 (12-2000)
    Mercedes C55 AMG 8.22 (7-2004)
    Porsche 996 Carrera4 8.23 (2-2001)
    Aston Martin DB7 GT 8.23 (7-2003)
    Subaru Impreza WRX Sti 8.24 (5-2004)
    Callaway C12 Coupé 8.25 (4-1999)
    Mitsubishi Evo VI 8.25 (11-1999)
    Audi RS4 8.25 (10-2000)
    Mitsubishi Evo VII 8.25 (11-2002)
    Mercedes SLK 32 AMG 8.26 (5-2001)
    Nissan 350Z 8.26 (10-2003)
    BMW M5 8.28 (3-1999)
    Mercedes CLK 55 AMG 8.29 (5-2000)
    Audi S4 Avant 8.29 (11-2003)
    Maserati Coupé 8.30 (10-2002)
    BMW M Roadster 8.32 (9-1997)
    Porsche Boxster S 8.32 (12-1999)
    BMW Z4 3.0 SMG 8.32 (5-2003)
    Lotus Exige 8.32 (8-2004)
    BMW Z3 Coupé 3.0i 8.34 (4-2001)
    Opel Speedster Turbo 8.34 (4-2004)
    BMW E36 M3 SMG 8.35 (3-1997)
    Brabus C V8 Coupé 8.35 (2-2002)
    Alpina B3 3.3 8.36 (7-1999)
    Porsche Boxster 8.36 (3-2003)
    Subaru Impreza GT Turbo 8.37 (3-2000)
    Maserati 3200 GT 8.37 (9-2000)
    Mercedes C32 AMG 8.37 (9-2001)
    VW Golf R32 8.37 (2-2003)
    Honda NSX 8.38 (8-1997)
    Brabus CLK 5.8 8.38 (12-1998)
    Mercedes SL 500 8.38 (12-2001)
    Honda S2000 8.39 (1-2000)
    Morgan Aero 8 8.39 (4-2003)
    Chevrolet Corvette 8.40 (7-1997)
    Audi S3 8.41 (6-1999)
    Aston Martin DB7 Vantage 8.41 (9-1999)
    Audi S4 8.42 (8-1998)
    Lotus Exige 8.42 (11-2000)
    Honda Civic Type-R 8.47 (11-2001)
    Jaguar XKR Coupé 8.49 (7-1998)
    Audi TT 1.8T Q (225) 8.49 (11-1998)
    Renault Clio V6 8.49 (7-2001)
    Alpina B10 3.2 8.50 (4-1998)
    Mercedes C43 AMG 8.51 (3-1998)
    Alfa 156 GTA 8.51 (5-2002)
    Mercedes CLK 430 8.52 (9-1998)
    Porsche Boxster 8.54 (4-1997)
    VW Golf GTI 8.54 (1-2002)
    Mini Cooper S Works 8.55 (9-2004)
    AMG-Mercedes SLK 230K 9.07 (5-1997)
    VW Golf V6 4-motion 9.09 (4-2000)
     
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    #14 riverflyer, Nov 1, 2004
    Hey Bert, thanks much, that is exactly what I was looking for. John
     
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    #15 NEP, Jan 31, 2018
    JANUARY 31, 2018

    Nurburgring wants 2019 F1 return


    The Nurburgring has indicated it wants to return to the F1 calendar in 2019.

    Although there was no German grand prix at all in 2015 or 2017, the country is returning to the schedule this year with an event at Hockenheim.

    The recent calendar gaps were caused by the Nurburgring's financial problems, but now boss Mirco Markfort says talks are back on with Liberty chief Chase Carey.

    "We want to get formula one back at the Ring," he told Kolner Express newspaper. "If possible already in 2019."

    Markfort warned: "But this is only possible if meaningful economic conditions are taken into account.

    "The business model a la Ecclestone is passe. It does not pay off for us in ticket revenue alone."

    He said more talks with F1 chief executive Carey are urgent.

    "We need clarity by the Hockenheim race in July," explained Markfort.
     

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