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Did anyone ever actually USE the Ferrari tool kits?

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  1. Jedi

    Jedi Moderator
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    I was examining mine (not entirely complete, but mostly - '86 328 GTS) the other
    day. VERY low-grade tools - and really kind of an odd assortment.

    What was the intent? Did anyone here ever actually USE these cheap forged tools?
    It's hard to picture actually having a USE for these tools at the side of the road...

    MY "toolkit" is a cell phone and AAA card.... as I'm sure is the case for MOST of us.

    Was it just "tradition"?

    Jedi
     
  2. FiatRN

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    Jedi

    On my Denver-DC-Denver drive, my passenger window rattled loose one of the bolts that hook to the cable, and slid down into the door. Luckily it was not earlier in the day during the rain deluge.

    When we pulled in for dinner, the tool kit provided everything I needed to remove the door panel and tighten up the window fastener. A quick handwash and the car was ready for the next 1000miles!

    So score one point for a useful collection of tools. Usually I plan my drives without tools, figuring if I bring them I'll need them! But since this car has it's own set (unlike my Honda), it goes with the car.

    Jonathan
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  3. robertgarven

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    #3 robertgarven, Jan 26, 2011
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    The guy I bought my car from had a 365 2+2, at a show in santa barbara a long time ago. His shock mount was loose and I loaned him a wrench and he tightened it. I was worried the wrench would break!. A related story. My original tools were rusting so i sent them out to get chromed, not polished. Even though we talked about it for hours, they came back like snap on tools. I ended up selling them and found another set.... live and learn. I once had them at a show and everyone laughed and laughed!!!!

    I found some pics they even ruined the jack tools, luckily that was in the day and I found new ses for about $200 each, like I said that was in the day........
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  4. lightning

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    The tool kit on my Mondial t is twenty years old and has never been touched by the look of it.
    The original can of tyre foam is still in there ("expires 1993") and all the spare bulbs.
    The screwdriver and pliers are poor quality but the spanners/ratchet driver look to be really nice items.
    I actually used one of the spare fuses out of the tool kit the other day....I almost felt guilty!
     
  5. afterburner

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    Yes, i did, on my Mondial QV. I changed the alternator/waterpump belt on HK's highest mountain... it would have been really inconvenient (= expensive and time-consuming) to get a flat-bed up there, the road being very narrow, really steep and curvy. 45 mins later, back on its own power. The only tool missing in the original kit is a 8 mm Allen key to get the belt cover off the a/c pump.
     
  6. ME308

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    tool kits came with the car for a reason ;)

    they are perfect to get your car running just in case you need them...
    if you know what to do with them of corse :D

    within 7 years and 30K miles, my car only let me stranded once...when the fuel pump went south 300miles from home

    with a replacement fuel pump, the on board jack and tool kit, the car was good to go within an hour...

    not counting the dirty wet ground I was laying in and the quart of gas in may hair that smelled oh so good for at least one more day ...;)
     
  7. f308jack

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    Yes.
    The spark-plug tool is the only one I have that'll work on my 308. The others all have too much thickness in their walls and won't get in there.
     
  8. Iain

    Iain F1 Rookie

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    Had to use mine once to undo all of 4 screws & a couple of acme/sheet metal screws to remove a wheel arch liner. Whereupon it became clear that the source of all that coolant on the floor really was a shagged water pump and not just a loose hose :(

    (at which point replace arch liner & wheel & call the tow truck! :) )
     
  9. mwr4440

    mwr4440 Five Time F1 World Champ
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    Yep. Use various parts of mine quite a bit.
     
  10. Glassman

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    When you wind up with a 6K to 10K tool roll it doesn't make much sense to use the tools.
     
  11. full_garage

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    I stuck my 308 tool kit and manuals in a drawer- but always carried a really nicely done tool roll from these guys- http://www.tecratools.com/pages/service/88800.html

    I just added a medium size adjustable wrench, some electrical connectors and crimper and some contact spray- Got me through a few jams!!
     
  12. Dom

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    Since I have a 308GT4, the tool kit is probably worth more than the car ;)

    So, I took it out and stored it in a nice safe place. Bought some craftsman tools to replace and keep those in the trunk.
     
  13. GrayTA

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    I use mine when I need them. I figure that I have the tools, so why not use them? I keep the set intact and IF I managed to break one I can find replacements on Ebay. I know they will fit exactly where I need or want them to.



    PDG
     
  14. pdf308

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    What do you think is missing?

    http://www.amazon.com/Apollo-Precision-DT1241-95-Piece-Mechanics/dp/B000IBHKAY/ref=sr_1_14?s=hi&ie=UTF8&qid=1296062105&sr=1-14

    $50.00
    95 Piece Mechanics Tool Kit
    What’s in the Box
    Wire brush, eight metric hex keys, ratcheting bit driver, twenty 1-inch bits, slotted precision screwdriver, Phillips precision screwdriver, 6-inch long nose pliers, 6-inch diagonal pliers, two 8-inch adjustable wrenches, eight SAE Hex keys, twenty 1/4-inch drive sockets, 3/8-inch drive ratchet handle, 3-inch drive extension bar, 3/8-inch drive x 13/16-inch spark plug socket, 3/8-inch drive x 5/8-inch spark plug socket, 1/4-inch drive ratchet handle, tire gauge, twelve 3/8-inch drive sockets, voltage tester, 3/8-inch drive 1/4-inch adapter, five metric combination wrenches, five SAE combination wrenches, 3/8-inch wire stripper/crimper.
    Product Dimensions: 14 x 17 x 3 inches and weights about 10 lbs.
     
  15. lightning

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    I never got a jack with my Mondial t.
    I obtained a spare wheel but still need a jack with the ratchet handle.
    Can anybody sell me one, or tell me where I can get one....were they similar to the type supplied with any other makes of car?
     
  16. Rifledriver

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    I changed an alternator belt in a motel parking lot on the 328 in Nevada once.

    The tool kit is well equipped to get you out of a lot of emergencies.
     
  17. Jedi

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    Great answers... I'd just prefer to use my Snap On and Craftsman tools for
    most things - I can't really picture running to the Ferrari boot to grab a box wrench
    when I have a top-notch pro-grade set on the wall in the garage.

    I like the answers from posters who changed their water pump and fuel pump
    while on some far-away mountain road. Does that really mean you carry
    spare water pumps and fuel pumps, with gasket materials, in the boot as well? Dayum - THAT'S prepared!

    :)

    Jedi
     
  18. pdf308

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  19. flyngti

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    I think the only time I would use the tools (assuming that I actually HAD the original tools) would be on the road. I'm with you Jedi -- if I'm at home I'd reach first for a tool on the wall rather than unroll the roll. Strange though it's different with my motorcycle. My airhead came with the original tool roll and I'm always using it, even at home.
     
  20. Jedi

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    I can say that when I had a Honda Passport 70 scooter, I actually OFTEN used
    the cheesy tool kit to keep the shift linkage adjusted. The bike came with a tool
    roll with 2 screwdrivers and a pair of pliers - about 99 cents worth of tools - but
    just enough functionality to keep the thing shifting correctly.

    Jedi
     
  21. jsa330

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    My GTS came with it all in showroom-new condition, now carefully stored away. Those cheap old tools are too valuable to use.

    I put together an emergency kit, including manual tire pump, that I carry in the car and use assorted stuff added to my garage toolboxes over the years on the rare occasions that I decide to fix something myself.
     
  22. Papa G

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    Yes, I was able to make it home after an incident with the ignition key.
     
  23. ztarum

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    I use the lug wrench and the spark plug socket all the time. The rest of the kit.... ahhh... not so much.
     
  24. tepps

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    I was supposed to get a jack and tool kit when I bought my car. I think I got a great deal as the seller was a Dealer who had the car for a few months and was selling it to me at his cost. I had the car for a week before I paid him so I knew what I was getting.. He never could locate the jack or tool kit. When I found out what I would have to pay for these "original Ferrari" tools I immediately made up my own tool kit of lighter, higher quality tools that I am familiar with.Anyone who knows good tools also knows that 99% of factory supplied tool kits are of a low quality. For 4 or 5 hundred $ I can buy a lot more than a "correct " tool kit.I like to carry a good trouble light to check for power, flashlight, set of 1/4 inch drive sockets, ratchet,extensions, universal,extra bits. These never cost too much.. a quality jack that I know wont fold up if I am changing a tire.A 2 foot breaker bar with proper socket for lug bolts, never the factory supplied lug wrench.A set of long open end , box end wrenches, and maybe a set of 3/8 sockets and ratchet. Also the workshop manual in the trunk, these things should at least keep you busy if you break down.
     
  25. DGS

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    #25 DGS, Jan 26, 2011
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    I tend to use my socket sets and box wrenches from Craftsman, Snap-On, SK, and a smattering of Ace HW stuff.
    But I haven't really collected metric crescent wrenches.

    So when I had a need for a same-size pair of open end wrenches, I used one from the tool roll.

    Boy are those handles thin. I suspect before you can put enough pressure on the wrench to break it, you'd have to cease from the pain of driving a blunt blade into your hand.

    My store bought tools all have nicely rounded, thick handles to push on. But I guess Ferrari is in the habit of saving space on things that go in the car. ;)
     

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