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Dodge Viper to get Ferrari Power?

Discussion in 'Ferrari Discussion (not model specific)' started by AustinMartin, Aug 10, 2009.

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  1. Far Out

    Far Out F1 Veteran

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    I think it wouldn't do neither of the two brands any good. And...

    ...that's BS imho. 1) Why anyone would build a OHC engine and then retrofit it to the inferior pushrods is beyond me 2) I doubt that it's so easily done, as pushrod vs. OHC requires a completely new block to accomodate the camshaft and the rods. Wtf?
     
  2. Etcetera

    Etcetera Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Single plane V-10?

    Odd.

    Someone over there is making things up and posting it.
     
  3. mwct

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    That's bizzare. The only reason I can think of is perhaps they are trying to cut costs?
     
  4. tundraphile

    tundraphile F1 Veteran

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    A derivative of the 599 engine (perhaps retuned for slightly lower power) would be nice. People would forget about the V10 if there was a V12 Ferrari engine that revved to 8000.
     
  5. TheMayor

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    It will never happen so don't worry about it. It's just more PR to stir up interest in Chrysler, which needs all it can get.
     
  6. thecheddar

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    It was actually a poorly-thought out rumor started by Car and Driver. Ferrari will cry murder before supplying engines for Vipers and the reference to converting them to pushrod plants shows only ignorance by C&D's bloggers.
     
  7. Dragster

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    I don't think the people that currently buy Vipers are really looking for that. I'm going to guess they're more than satisfied with an 8.4 liter engine with massive torque (and 600hp). Two completely different animals.
     
  8. AceMaster

    AceMaster Three Time F1 World Champ

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    this makes sense
     
  9. bundas

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    i agree with all. what BS. my 550 and Viper are two totally different cars. Ferrari is of course perfect(what else) Viper is just flat dangerous to me.
     
  10. kosmo

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    agreed. If they do employ an OHC design the displacement will surely have to be reduced otherwise it will be too heavy, all else equal.

    also is widely known that the current engine has more potential.
     
  11. rosso_fanatic

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    This sounds familiar. They could call it the Dodge Viper TC
     
  12. bundas

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    Wards auto has picked up to motor item. I may have to eat the BS statement
     
  13. ZINGARA 250GTL

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    I rarely disparage. My friend of long body repair experience has one word for Viper in any configuration..........Junk.

     
  14. norcal2

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    Chrysler and Fiat have had past relationships with vehicles, power plants, etc..so I wouldnt discount this as being non plausible...
     
  15. anunakki

    anunakki Seven Time F1 World Champ
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    Correct. Viper is my favorite production can and for me its all about the torque.
     
  16. SRT Mike

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    Anyone who thinks Vipers are "junk" is an ignoramus and knows nothing about cars.

    You don't have to love the style or the purpose of the car, but anyone with even a passing understanding of engineering can appreciate the design of the car. It's likely one of the most overbuilt sports cars ever. As an engineer, when I used to work on mine, I was always amazed and impressed at the car. It has a reputation (largely correct) about being assembled from parts-bin parts. But the engineers did their homework in all the right places, which is why the car will outperform pretty much anything in it's price range, all the way up to anything an order of magnitude higher than it's price range.

    I had hundreds of drag strip launches on mine, it ran mid 11's bone stock on stock tires. I ran hundreds of AutoX's, did track days from Arizona to Jersey, and it never, ever, ever broke. And all I did was oil changes and brake pads.

    Show me another factory built car that would withstand that level of abuse, perform that well, and cost that little, and I'll eat my hat. It doesn't exist.
     
  17. WillSpain

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    Fiat to own another brand?,,rescue better say,,, That`s all.
     
  18. otaku

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    to me this could be helpful for dodge/chrysler but I think the current engine in the viper is what viper buyers want i don't see any reason to mess with the viper if it makes money and sells good keep it and keep it the way it is if sales and profits are poor cancel it or start thinking of a way to improve it though a ferrari engine may still not be the way to go. I don't think it would be good for ferrari's image so I don't think it will happen
     
  19. kosmo

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    it could happen right underneath our noses!
     
  20. Chuck 98 RT/10

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    My 98 "junk" has 119,000 miles on it, I've done all my own maintenance, the motor, tranny and diff have never been touched and it is still on the stock clutch. And it still runs 12 flat at the dragstrip.

    My 97 "junk" has 40,000 miles, more than half of those are track miles and the motor has never been opened. It runs mid 20s at Sebring.

    That said, Ferraris are great cars and Vipers are great cars. But the only similarities are both are kings in their perspective classes, both have four wheels and both run on gasoline. Everything else is completely different.
     
  21. anunakki

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    Wow Good to see Chuck on the FChat boards !
     
  22. Neonzapper

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  23. Chuck 98 RT/10

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    LOL. Haven't been in several years. I had a few more posts than three but I suppose they were lost with a software upgrade.
     
  24. Forexpreneur

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    Fiat is bleeding money. Taking on the Chrysler group at this point was not a good idea. Sure they need a more global prescense but you have to get out of the woods first. I wouldn't be holding onto their stock that's for sure.
     

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