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  1. Fmax

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    #1 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008
    In the manual it says check the engine oil whilst the car is idling. So I checked with and without idling. There are 2 holes in the bottom of the dip stick and a bit higher. I guess it is meant to be in the middle?


    With the engine idling it goes beyond the first hole but it is a bit frothy. With the engine off it does not even register on the first hole. Can someone clarify if having oil froth a little way between the two holes is OK?
     
  2. Derek Trotter

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    #2 Derek Trotter, Jul 28, 2008
    Hi Max. Yes you do check the oil with the engine running and it should be between the two markings (holes). A few bubbles really is not a problem as the air mixes with the oil. Excessive, i.e. more froth than oil, is a little more questionable. If this is the case, change the oil and monitor the levels of froth. My independent used Agip 5W/40 at the last service and no bubbles are apparent.
     
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    #3 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008
    Thanks Del. Say Hi to rodders for me next time you see him ;) BTW I have ditched the dealer and going for an independent as everyone *****es about the one and only here in Prague.
     
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    #4 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008
    what does froth mean?
     
  5. Derek Trotter

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    #5 Derek Trotter, Jul 28, 2008
    Foamy/mixed with air/like soap suds..........
     
  6. Fmax

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    #6 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008

    Haha, was that sarcastic? I meant in terms of a possible calamity regarding my engine.
     
  7. mr_bock

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    #7 mr_bock, Jul 28, 2008
    That could mean coolant getting into the engine oil.... leaking head gasket for one.
     
  8. Derek Trotter

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    #8 Derek Trotter, Jul 28, 2008
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    No it wasn't scarcastic! ;)

    Coolant getting into the oil normally is creamy, mayonnaise type texture. For Max, this is what mayonnaise looks like:
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    #9 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008
    Go for the light version myself ;) So let me get this right, I should add the mayonnaise to my engine right?
     
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    #10 Derek Trotter, Jul 28, 2008
    Sure adding mayo is fine! Can't you see the above mayo jar mentions oil!
     
  11. Fmax

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    #11 Fmax, Jul 28, 2008
    I would like to thank you Del for your in-depth knowledge on these technical matters. You have saved me a fortune as before I was buying expensive synthetic oil, little did I realise a trip to the lcoal supermarket could have saved me a packet.
     
  12. vm3

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    #12 vm3, Jul 28, 2008
    Accurately checking the level of Shell oil is impossible, since it foams and the oil bubbles rise higher on the dip stick than the actual oil level. It's like checking the coffee level in a cup of foamy cappuccino. People resort to various types of witchcraft to check the oil level but none of them is reliable. I switched to Mobile oil and the foaming problem disappeared. Now checking the oil is easy.
     
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    #13 Fmax, Jul 29, 2008
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    One more oil question. I see service intervals for oil are at 10,000kms and 30,00kms but the stealer said get it done every 10,000km. 20,000km does seem a long time between oil changes. What you guys do for people who actually drive their cars ;)?

    BTW check this out. He checks with the engine idling and screws the cap all the way down on the thread.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwMu7BHZg5Q
     
  14. E60 M5

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    #14 E60 M5, Jul 29, 2008
    Max,

    It is recommended to change the oil at least once a year or every 4k-5k miles, coming from FOW and Competizione. I change mine more frequently, but I also track my car. Under normal conditions I would change it once a year.

    Robert
     
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    #15 Fmax, Jul 29, 2008
    Just to play devils advocate why would the manual suggest much larger intervals?
     
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    #16 Skidkid, Jul 29, 2008
    You aren't supposed to screw the cap on. It is supposed to be sitting on top of the reservoir when you check the oil. If you are near full it probably doesn't make too much difference though.

    Extensive testing has been done on synthetic oils. 10k miles is very reasonable for most synthetics since they really don't break down as quickly. Of course that assumes that you drive the car that much, otherwise you are on the 1 per year program.
     
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    #17 E60 M5, Jul 29, 2008

    I don't know, but they aren't factoring in cars that are never driven sitting around collecting condensation in oil lines, brake lines, ect... I sure am not going to skimp, these are performance engines, the break down from the heat is another consideration.
    Many cars sit for months over the winter collecting moisture in every line and on and on.


    Robert
     

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