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How Do You TR Drivers Cope?

Discussion in 'Boxers/TR/M' started by vvassallo, Oct 5, 2006.

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  1. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    I have to admit, I was one of the faithful, looking to replace my 348 Spider with the big brother TR, a nice 90-91 to be exact. I could not afford the 512TR, though I concede its merits.

    After looking at one closely and driving, I have to say, I am a bit put off. How do u guys drive these things and have u ever driven anything normal sized? To each his own, but OMIGOD, this TR is a beheamoth. It is over 80 inches wide without opening the doors so u need another 18 to 24 inches to get in it. The doors are nearly a foot wide with those strakes. How wide of a garage do u need ferchistsakes and can u put anything else in there?!

    Drivng the car is a lesson in situational awareness. Where is the front end? What's behind me? Anything over there in that massive blind spot to the right? Egad, I give any TR owner creds, esp. if u never backed into or sideswiped anything. As for me, it is definitely not my type of car. It kind of drives like a truck on roller skates and no, I did not get it up to speed on the highway - only city driving. Sorry, guys, I thought I was gonna be a member here. Now I will go back to the 308/348/355 threads where I belong. Feel free to flame this lowly V-8 driver.

    :)
     
  2. steveirl

    steveirl Formula 3

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    . It kind of drives like a truck on roller skates



    What kind of trucks do you drive??????
     
  3. johng

    johng Formula 3

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    yeah the TR is not good for city/tight areas driving. it feels best on the open road. i bought my TR with the intention of using it as a daily driver. but the heavy steering and clutch, and the wideness of the rear made it a bad idea. nonetheless, it is a wonderful car, and after thinking of selling it, i've decided that i really really like it and want to keep the car. i would say once you have the chance to drive the car on some open roads it comes into its own. but mind you, it doesn't handle the twisties very well.

    john
     
  4. MS250

    MS250 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    After 8 plus years of ownership the question is how can you drive such a small tight ferrari with no torque ? I guess its all in what you like, personally, i have been looking at my second ferrari, and the 348 and the 355 have kinda of let me down in the same way. I find them tight, slow off the start...the dont really come to life until 4,000-5,000rpm....and the drive a bit bumpy.
    At the end of the day they are like chldren, all different in there on ways, but we love them all.
     
  5. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I got used to it very quickly but I am accustomed to driving big cars. Our other one is a Lambo LM. The TR is small compared to it.

    I feel right at home and very comfortable with 2 exceptions. Parking lots are hard to deal with getting in and out of the car but if you don't like the TR for that you really won't like a Ford GT.

    The other is it's low but so are a lot of other cars.

    As far as size and visibility goes if you don't like the TR you should probably stay away from a Countach.
     
  6. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    I like to look at all Ferraris even the TR's, but since I cannot put it in the garage and park the wife's convertible there it's a non-issue. I like those smaller no-torque V-8s. I don't live for the 0-60 dash and once u rev 'em up, they're fine. I do like to turn once in a while so there's that too. :)

    Yes, I looked at Lambos too and realized the size issue, but did not think that the TR's were similar. Oh well. Maybe I need a 246... Isn't that 1/2 a Boxer motor?
     
  7. SoftwareDrone

    SoftwareDrone F1 Veteran
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    Yeah, those TR's are sooooo wide - they're a whole TWO INCHES wider than my 360.
     
  8. carguy

    carguy F1 Rookie

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    Yes the TR is a handful around town, but I do like that torque. Not a lot of shifting necessary....you can even let the clutch out without touching the gas and the car is off. A slow corner is a work out, but I look at it like this. At least I'm getting some exercise (needed at my age) and I'm enjoying it to boot! If I ever get out of the flat-twelve cars my next car will probably be a 360 6-speed...the most beautiful lines and curves of any modern Ferrari. But for now I'll stick with the ol'e boxer-12 and the exotic look. TRs are long-legged cars and once your rolling along, going up through the gears gets you to illegal speeds very quickly. The car is happiest at high speed, just like a grand touring car should be. And with a 36 gallon fuel capacity you can cover quite a distance in relative comfort. On the highway there isn't much that compete with it. These cars are intended for high speed cruising and are the best at it. Yes they are low, and WIDE, and do stop traffic....and that is a good thing too! Kids love 'em and adults stare at them trying to figure out if it's some new mustang or something, because of the prancing horse emblem on the back. I'm sorry you were disappointed by your drive, but no car is for everybody. There is a Ferrari for every taste....I wish I could have one of each!!!!!!!!!!
     
  9. carguy

    carguy F1 Rookie

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    Yes the TR is a handful around town, but I do like that torque. Not a lot of shifting necessary....you can even let the clutch out without touching the gas and the car is off. A slow corner is a work out, but I look at it like this. At least I'm getting some exercise (needed at my age) and I'm enjoying it to boot! If I ever get out of the flat-twelve cars my next car will probably be a 360 6-speed...the most beautiful lines and curves of any modern Ferrari. But for now I'll stick with the ol'e boxer-12 and the exotic look. TRs are long-legged cars and once your rolling along, going up through the gears gets you to illegal speeds very quickly. The car is happiest at high speed, just like a grand touring car should be. And with a 36 gallon fuel capacity you can cover quite a distance in relative comfort. On the highway there isn't much that compete with it. These cars are intended for high speed cruising and are the best at it. Yes they are low, and WIDE, and do stop traffic....and that is a good thing too! Kids love 'em and adults stare at them trying to figure out if it's some new mustang or something, because of the prancing horse emblem on the back. I'm sorry you were disappointed by your drive, but no car is for everybody. There is a Ferrari for every taste....I wish I could have one of each!!!!!!!!!!
     
  10. fastfred

    fastfred Formula Junior

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    i bought mine for the look, that no other has (to me)and once you have driven one for a time you get to like them alot...that big 12 sound is like no other also (to me ) and on the open road its a KING....i had a choice from a lot of ferraris to buyfrom (lots). so as you can tell i'm hooked on mine. its all what a person likes, each to there own...........
     
  11. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Funny but true. Looks are decieving.

    You know what has a shorter wheel base than a 355?

    That really lloonngg car...Daytona
     
  12. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    Just like any other cars, you will become accustom to it with time spend behind the wheel. While parallel parking is always going to be a pain, but the car is actually more agile than you think. It may not be as raw as the Boxers or others before it, it can still make a driver pay for his/her mistakes if not driven with care. IMO, that is part of the fun.

    Also, it is only as wide if not less than a lot of the SUVs/Mini-vans out there.
     
  13. Will

    Will Formula Junior

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    The TR is a work of art. Love her for what she is.
     
  14. jungathart

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    Cool.:)
     
  15. carcollector

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    No need to justify how or why I drive a TR. Any further comment will only attach importance to his silly statements.
     
  16. JAYF

    JAYF Formula 3

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    Sounds like the TR is not for you. The first day I sat in mine and drove it, I felt right at home. I had driven a handful of other models (which will remain nameless to prevent a war) and they did not meet my expectations. The TR felt like an old friend, and I look forward to every drive. If you need an easy driving performance car, buy a BMW. They are great, I love driving to work in mine and seeing my twin every five minutes. I will give you one point , the TR is a tough car to manuever into a parking space, especially with my one mirror.
     
  17. James_Woods

    James_Woods F1 World Champ

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    I felt the same way - old friend from the first startup. Of course, I kind of knew what to expect about the unassisted steering, heavy clutch, the gated shift, etc. All of this held a kind of primitive appeal - like having an old taildragger airplane with a control stick.

    What I did not expect was the total transformation of driving feel when you get past 35mph and just start driving rather than mousing around! For me, it did not feel all that big or wide; and the outside vision thing was not an issue at all. The driving position felt great - and I am a person who has trouble with a lot of the Fcar models because of the steering wheel angle.

    But then, if you don't get it, you don't get it. Maybe it is like trying to shoot with a custom made shotgun which was made for somebody else - and your thing is just for another model. They are all great cars, IMHO.
     
  18. 348SStb

    348SStb F1 Rookie
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    When I drove the 512tr, I thought it was not that different in feel (steering, drivability) than the 348.

    It seemed like a 348 on steroids.

    I disagree with the notion that it drives like a truck.
     
  19. MYMC

    MYMC Formula Junior

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    The perfect response!
     
  20. jungathart

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    Yes, and the driver gets to control the rages.;)
     
  21. vvassallo

    vvassallo F1 Veteran

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    Heh, heh, the truck reference is because compared to the 348 or 308, the TR is big and heavy in the way it feels on the road. Roller skates because it is so low. Thanks, you have added to my potential nightmares - parallel parking a TR on a busy street. :) Not that one would ever do so since I just heard of a guy that had his backed into by an SUV that did

    You guys are right about what feels right when u slide behind the wheel. To me the 348/F355 felt perfect, the 308 abit small, the 246 like a go cart (and that is a good thing), the F360 just not right somehow as if the proportions are a bit off, but I would learn to adapt. For me (and I hate to admit this) the Corvette offers the most comfortable and best driving position/layout. I cannot go back there since after u own/drive a Ferrari, those cheap plastic American things are well, cheap plastic American things. That, and I sold my gold chains.
     
  22. Maldini

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    vvassallo: you mention in your original post how difficult the car is, where the front end ends, what is in the rear.... Then you stated the "Corvette offers the most comfortable and best driving position/layout".

    I find the Corvette far more awkward to drive with its long front end as apposed to my TR. And for me, the TR seems to fit just right in terms of seating position, height and center consol layout.

    Bottom line is, the Testarossa is not for everyone, a Ferrari is a driving experience like no other, you have to find what fits for you.
     
  23. sparta49

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    +1
     
  24. Tifoso1

    Tifoso1 F1 Rookie

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    Nothing is suppose to be easy in any Ferraris that were made before the release of the F355. For some, that's part of the appeal and the mystic associated to these cars, is to know that not everyone can drive or will enjoy driving one of Enzo's finest creations.
     
  25. steve f

    steve f F1 World Champ

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    the tr is great on the open roads but you wrestle with it in the city
     

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