Campos selling his team?

[Wolfgang5150]

I read this in the Toronto Star (1.5 hours from me); anyone heard about this?

Nov 06, 2009
http://www.wheels.ca/Auto%20Racing/article/782837

A constant all week: Adrien Campos, who was awarded one of four new places on the grid for next season (along with Lotus, USF1 and Manor Grand Prix), was flying all over Europe trying to sell his team.

[kraftwerk]

Like I have been saying along the blame can be laid firmly at cretin Mosley's porno door step for using F1 as his personal battle ground.

[kraftwerk]

A verdict in the dispute between the FIA and N.Technology over the 2010 Formula 1 entry process is expected on 10 November.

Italian team N.Technology was one of those that missed out when Campos, Manor and US F1 were awarded the three vacant slots in the 2010 field.

Its parent company MSC began legal action in July after suggesting that there had been irregularities in the process.

"We are doing this in the name of sport," MSC board member Angelo Codignoni told AUTOSPORT at the time. "From our point of view, the procedure for dealing with new entrants was not respected and there was not transparency about the process and preparations for the 2010 championship."

[SRT Mike]

I said it before and I will say it again... people are cheering Toyota's exit and basically saying good riddance.

That attitude will come back to bite ya...

These 4 new teams got spots on the grid during a time Max was promising a budget cap and also wanted to get as many new teams as possible.

So from the teams side, they were willing to commit based on a budget cap when they would otherwise not have committed.

From the FIA's side, they were willing to take on new teams that they would not have otherwise taken on - maybe overlooking the legitimacy of some of these operations.

Don't be surprised if multiple of the new teams do not show up on the grid in 2010.

And considering there will be no Toyota, and perhaps no Renault, that could be a BIG problem for Bernie and the FIA.

[05011994]

Originally Posted by SRT Mike

I said it before and I will say it again... people are cheering Toyota's exit and basically saying good riddance.

That attitude will come back to bite ya...

These 4 new teams got spots on the grid during a time Max was promising a budget cap and also wanted to get as many new teams as possible.

So from the teams side, they were willing to commit based on a budget cap when they would otherwise not have committed.

From the FIA's side, they were willing to take on new teams that they would not have otherwise taken on - maybe overlooking the legitimacy of some of these operations.

Don't be surprised if multiple of the new teams do not show up on the grid in 2010.

And considering there will be no Toyota, and perhaps no Renault, that could be a BIG problem for Bernie and the FIA.

If the new teams actually do make onto the grid, they will more than likely be the next Simtek, Pacific (they were even called Lotus for a few months as well) or Forti. If my memory serves me correct one of the drivers racing against the Forti team in 1996 said that the reason they called the team Forti was that you passed them so many times in a race when lapping them, that you swore there were 40 of them on the grid!. You are right these teams signed up when they thought there was going to be a budget cap to allow them to compete, as well as thinking the could resell their position for one of the limited (not so now) spots on the grid. Those that applauded Honda, BMW, Toyota and possible Renault leaving may want to work up an appetite for crow, Bon Appétit.

[4rePhill]

Originally Posted by SRT Mike

I said it before and I will say it again... people are cheering Toyota's exit and basically saying good riddance.

That attitude will come back to bite ya...

These 4 new teams got spots on the grid during a time Max was promising a budget cap and also wanted to get as many new teams as possible.

So from the teams side, they were willing to commit based on a budget cap when they would otherwise not have committed.

From the FIA's side, they were willing to take on new teams that they would not have otherwise taken on - maybe overlooking the legitimacy of some of these operations.

Don't be surprised if multiple of the new teams do not show up on the grid in 2010.

And considering there will be no Toyota, and perhaps no Renault, that could be a BIG problem for Bernie and the FIA.

Can't see it being that much of a problem really. The old BMW/Sauber team should be back by then with Ferrari engines and if need be they'll reintroduce 3 car teams and pass it off as returning to a traditon in F1 from the '50s when racing was regarded as being some of the best ever.

Trust Me, one way or another, They'll fill the grid.

Also, for drivers wanting to race in F1, who would they rather drive for, one of the USF1, Campos etc teams or in a third car for Ferrari or McLaren?. Even Frank Williams has admitted that under the right circumstances (i.e ones that don't disadvantage his team so greatly), he is not totally opposed to the idea of three car teams.

[VIZSLA]

Originally Posted by Wolfgang5150

I read this in the Toronto Star (1.5 hours from me); anyone heard about this?

Nov 06, 2009
http://www.wheels.ca/Auto%20Racing/article/782837

A constant all week: Adrien Campos, who was awarded one of four new places on the grid for next season (along with Lotus, USF1 and Manor Grand Prix), was flying all over Europe trying to sell his team.

Thanks for the link Kevin.
May be I missed it (still on my first cup) but I didn't see them examine Mercedes involvement. At this point they are a major source of engines and funds and seem to be increasing their involvement not reducing it.

[william]

If it wasn't for Bernie Ecclestone's contract with TV channels and circuits owners that he was going to provide 18 or 20 cars (can't remember), there is nothing wrong with a small grid.

GPs used to be run with 16 or even less cars in the past, and F1 didn't die for it.

It's quality you need, not quantity. At most GPs, at least 1/3 of the grid are just 'extras' with no chance of competing for the lead and just providing entertainment when they are lapped!

[ACross32]

Extra cars provide a greater potential for overtaking, more highlights for the reel.

[Senna1994]

Excellent article nevertheless, I guess Bruno Senna doesn't have much luck signing for teams on the grid.