Kimi won't compromise over 2010 deal

[Axecent]

Originally Posted by 2000YELLOW360

It may be that he wants to make sure that the car he gets is competitive, and that he isn't second chair. Most of the guys that I know that are champions want the vehicle 1st, and then they go after the money. The only one that I know that went after the money is John Hopkins, and look where he is now.

Art

John was compared to Kevin Schwantz so early in his career. He probably made the jump to the 500's too soon. He really did ride the wheels of the Suzuki, and he had many bad and injurious crashes. Yes, his partying attitude eventually caught up with him too, and the combo struck him out of the premier class. His fall has been precipitous.

[Qvb]

If there are so many other good enough drivers out there, then why is Alonso so much faster then whoever is his team mate? Why is Hamilton so much better then Kovalainen even though Kovalainen has proven to be almost as fast. How can Kobayashi make the Toyota look fast and make Trulli and Glock look like stones. I am not a fan of Massa but he has apparently become quite good. I wouldn't be surprised if he has no problem with Alonso (on the track)(unless it rains). So Mclaren does need someone better then average to compete for WCC against Ferrari and even RedBull. (Webber's not great but somewhat consistent and won't let people pass him so he will get points if the car is good). Note that Kovalainen tied Massa this year in points, doh.
I think if Kimi had signed with Toyota, then they would not drop out and he and Kobayashi would have been in the mix, the car was close this year.

[robert_c]

Originally Posted by zaevor2000

The most workable solution at this point is to present Kimi with a performance-laden contract that will earn him the salary he is accustomed to provided he attains a certain level of points and performance in comparison to his team mate.

I was thinking the same thing but I don't think it would work in Kimi's case because money isn't his motivator. He has more money than god already. (JB wishes he had that kind of deal last year.)

So the question is what motivates Kimi? I don't think anything in F1 does. He already won WDC and a huge paycheck. I think a challenging new sport would motivate him. I see him fit best in rally or even something non-auto related like skiing, but he has shown interest in rally so that is where I think he will end up. It will be good for the sport.

[Modena360-66]

Originally Posted by Qvb

If there are so many other good enough drivers out there, then why is Alonso so much faster then whoever is his team mate? .

You tell me?
beating rookies is not that impressive, fisichella is not that impressive, and what about when Hamilton was as fast as him ?
Truli was giving him hard time at renault, so Briatore got rid of him...

[Qvb]

Originally Posted by Modena360-66

You tell me?
beating rookies is not that impressive, fisichella is not that impressive, and what about when Hamilton was as fast as him ?
Truli was giving him hard time at renault, so Briatore got rid of him...

I'm not sure what your point is. There are people on here suggesting that Kimi is not worth the money. I am no Alonso fan but there are people on the grid who score points regardless of how bad the car is and there are people on the grid who don't score points regardless of how good the car is. Mclaren can not compete for the WCC with Kovalainen, it has been proven 2 years in a row, even though he is fast. Ferrari and RedBull have 2 scoring drivers. I was merely saying that I don't believe Mclaren have many choices if they want to compete for the WCC. An average number 2 driver will not be enough next year (unless their car is head and shoulders better then the rest, let's hope not). They could go for Kobayashi, which would be exciting but risky, they can get Kimi and know what they are getting or they can get some other driver that they know is just average, as all the other top drivers are taken.

[DF1]

Kubica will be available probably tomorrow and then Kimi and his somewhat ridiculous salary demands will be very old news.

[Qvb]

Originally Posted by DF1

Kubica will be available probably tomorrow and then Kimi and his somewhat ridiculous salary demands will be very old news.

Kubica is old news after being beaten by his team mate.