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11-28-2006, 11:54 AM
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Does Enzo Ferrari dislike the Ferrari Enzo Ferrari?
People always talk about Ferrari tradition and how Enzo himself would do things if he was still with us. LV Eric’s thread “My Theory” got me thinking about the superstitious thinking that some people have and it lead me to this.
If Enzo was alive would he approve of the Enzo? Is he rolling over in his grave with dislike? Is the Ferrari, Enzo Ferrari cursed? There have been several of them destroyed, a few people killed and a few people really hurt driving an Enzo. If I was superstitious that would lead me to think that Enzo himself does not like the car and is letting people know the only way he can. 
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#2
11-28-2006, 12:16 PM
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The only curse is the drivers that buy them and drive them recklessly and irresponsably.
Having such power and performance means you need to respect the machine at all times. Same goes with motorcycles, look how many people get killed on them, whether it was their fault or not, they must be vigilant at all times, and an accident will happen when least expected. If Mr. Ferrari was satisfied with the F40, then he would be as satisfied with the Enzo, considering both supercars are reflections of current design and technology evolution. I'm sure he would also be happy because they were all sold out, and the company made a hefty profit on the entire project! Last edited by starboy444; 11-28-2006 at 12:43 PM.
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11-28-2006, 12:42 PM
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I think this is ridiculous many of the high HP cars are being crashed. The Lambo 640 has crashed many times and I hear the new Z06 has been crashed many many times, I recall a post (if it’s true) of that Swedish (don’t recall spelling) Koiengg super car that was crashed about 1 hour after delivery. Many people that can afford 1 million dollar cars don’t have the time to learn how to drive them properly. If I came into 15-20 million dollars tomorrow I would go buy an Enzo, f40, and 288 GTO as soon as I could find good ones. I would then get in my Enzo after it got unloaded in front of my house and be totally unqualified to drive it – however I would drive it hard. This happens, the cars that are out today are incredible super cars that an average or even good driver is not qualified to drive at the limit – and from what I hear and read it’s not hard to get any one of them including the Enzo to the limit very fast. Would Enzo like his car, I would guess YES, the car is 10 times more beautiful in person then pictured and the performance was the maximum that Ferrari could put into it at the time. People dieing in these cars is tragic, however I feel the more I read the more I slow down and think when I get in my car. Accidents happen the Enzo is beautiful and the best that Factory could do at the time.
Andrew
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#4
11-28-2006, 02:31 PM
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Hmm....
This kind of supernatural conspiracy is a little odd to me... In the tradition of high performance vehicles, 'the next is best.' This comes from the 288 GTO - the first 'modern' super car that Enzo himself saw put into production. Later of course after the GTO Evoluzione, came the F40 - the last super-Ferrari Enzo saw produced. 288 to F40 is a big step in speed, handling, and all around drivability. An evolution of technical know-how and a progression into the new age for our "modern super car." The destruction of the Enzo by many different owners is by their own disregard for the road. There was a video that surfaced a while ago by an on-car camera taping the owner of a yellow Enzo doing 186 on a European highway. Any type of wreck would have been his own fault. It is not by some cosmic dislike of this car, but by the recklessness these drivers so openly embrace. I am sure that quite a few of us in our Ferraris have done something remotely crazy at one time of another. I am not innocent either, however, we take that risk every time. Its us - nobody else. http://youtube.com/watch?v=RPpnqcw_O4w Seeing as how evolution means the most in automotive, and technical design, I am sure Enzo himself would be proud of where his company has taken the automobile. Proud of the echelon we have achieved in mechanical design, and the maintaining of such a grand and very ultimate company! Regards Last edited by modena1_2003; 11-28-2006 at 02:36 PM.
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#5
11-28-2006, 05:20 PM
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the reason they are getting smashed up is simple its more car than an unskilled driver can handle and the the roads arent engineered for such high speeds like in the case of Mr.Lossee, with proper instruction, a good trach a HANS system and helemet, and fire suppresion, the Enzo is a safe car, but driving it @3times the speed limit on unpredictable roads with traffic bad things can happen, fast. I got pulled over for 85 in a 45 a few weeks ago, they let me off, but i had no idea i was going that fast i thought i was in the hight 50's. Thats my only complaint about the Enzo it dosent talk back to you loud enough, the CS I had talked back but everything is muted in the Enzo, The LP640 is much more muted than a regular murci, the Diablo tells you when to shift etc. its too easy to go too fast in the Enzo bottom line.
perhaps the guy in Nice was passing by someone who didnt see him and he got bumped or over corrected right into the tree. Any evidence of paint transfer from another car might have been burned off.
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11-28-2006, 05:22 PM
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I believe Enzo said that his favorite Ferrari was the latest one, so he had to like it at one point.
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11-28-2006, 05:40 PM
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Not cursed, just not engineered to deal with everyday issues like bumpy, pothole-filled, wet and crowned roads. As an aside, there was a German fellow who purchased a McLaren F1 brand new in the mid 1990s. He drove it every day to work "above 200 mph" he claimed. The McLaren salespeople thought he was exaggerating (obviously). Then, he had the car serviced and via the software, they saw that he in fact was regularly driving at speeds north of 220 mph!
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11-28-2006, 08:59 PM
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I think (from what i read)
He would have not called the Enzo after himself.... And I dont think the ferrari line up would be as large as it is today. Most certain he would have the 430 and the 599, but they would have been faster(i think) and less production numbers, and 40% more in price.
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11-28-2006, 09:06 PM
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hence the Scaglietti would be his fave car
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11-28-2006, 09:09 PM
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11-28-2006, 09:14 PM
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Which was true. So maybe he didn't care for them at first, but then later began to admire them more.
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11-28-2006, 09:16 PM
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Mr. Montezemolo has done a fine job in leading the marque, since his early years in the '70's, he was able to work alongside Mr. Ferrari and his "scuderia", in its best times, and its worst times, thus guiding the company appropriately into the next stages of development and success.
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11-29-2006, 12:33 AM
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based on the ENZO looks itself, it's opinion. But, if you've ever drove one, you'll know why it is incredible. I've driven EVERTHING, and NOTHING compares to it. (from SLR, CGT, Konigsigg...)
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11-29-2006, 07:34 AM
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11-30-2006, 03:36 PM
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11-30-2006, 04:55 PM
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11-30-2006, 05:54 PM
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The Enzo is the best now, but there will always be #2 biting at its heels.
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11-30-2006, 08:35 PM
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12-01-2006, 05:52 AM
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Hey didn't he say "aerodynamics are for people who do not know
how to build a proper engine?" :P
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